Message from @Paradox
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Or rather when I say the problem is the people abusing is that the problem is about the people abusing
a problem is something that can be solved
hard to catch people that are abusing it without having surveillance on them 24/7
is it though?
yeah cuz without having them watched how do you know they arent acting/lying
The commies used to make ppl surveil each other
Their favorite trick was to coerce school children to grass their own family
grass?
i would argue that that is again a problem with our methods, or ways of measuring, our ability to gain knowledge.
"Tell on"
Well are you giving disability purely based on trust?
if they can act or lie their way into a disability.
its just hard to tell what is wrong with someones body with our technology. some problems you cant see even with MRI's and Xrays
or even CAT scans
i agree, was my point.
Reminds me, a guy I used to know was pulled out of school at age 14 and was never home schooled by his parents so his parents could collect welfare later on.
we would need some form of technology that could tell when something actually caused someone pain like in their joints or whatever else their complaint is that is keeping them from working
Wel it would be helpful, but I don't think it's necessary to reduce the issue.
Is there generally anything severe enough where you can''t work any kind of job and it can't be measured?
A start would be to introduce gradients rather than a simple binary.
from my understanding there is.
its not like oh his leg doesnt work well so he cant work at all
my understanding is that person would not get any aid, because he can work
the current system is if you can work, even if you are messed up, no aid. You have to be so messed up you cannot work, to get full aid.
so a binary
i mean my mom has cerebral palsy and got SS but not the full amount someone that was completely unable to work got.
really? Hmm. Never heard of that, I've heard of differences caused by ssi vs ssdi...
You can be deemed incompetent by the state and get a lot, incompetentcy can just be idiocy which is terrible in my opinion. Should just be mental handicaps
That is another thing, mental health is a major issue that just gets band aids on it.
sure, but a lot of that is still not well understood, and is a lot of trial by error.
doesn't mean nothing should be done, ofc.
That's the thing, is it should be worked towards being well understood
NO, we need the perfect solution... Reeee
the brain isnt really fully understood tho so mental issues are harder to deal with
of course then theres the generation coming up that thinks they have every condition in the book and just make it harder to understand what causes each condition and how to treat it
That's the thing, there is not as big a push to get better understanding as their should be
Where should the push be taking place that it isn't?
I mean, is it at the pay/funding level, the science/technology level, etc.
I would say those are included
Even just implementing what is known