Message from @LotheronPrime

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2018-08-15 19:50:21 UTC  

People who haven't seen this should watch for... let's say 2 or so minutes?

2018-08-15 19:50:25 UTC  

Until you get the point.

2018-08-15 19:50:45 UTC  

I knew of this debate before I knew of Tim, or his affection for Bernie.

2018-08-15 19:51:12 UTC  

Said affection has always.. surprised me in light of this.

2018-08-15 19:54:09 UTC  

This debate was hard to find aside from Crowder's upload.

2018-08-15 19:55:27 UTC  

And the reason I say Ted Cruz crushed, is because he's pretty much the Anti-Bernie to this woman.

2018-08-15 19:55:44 UTC  

"Your story is VERY COMMON now. It's a problem and its endemic."

2018-08-15 19:55:49 UTC  

I'm paraphrasing.

2018-08-15 19:56:18 UTC  

socialism is like coming up with a hypothesis, and testing the data until it fits said hypothesis, even though you have no idea how to do so

2018-08-15 19:56:29 UTC  

had a different subject

2018-08-15 19:56:48 UTC  

and actaully, I'm somewhat for socialized healthcare, I do wish we could figure out a way to pay for it

2018-08-15 19:56:59 UTC  

because I don't think peopel should go broke because they get sick and/or unlucky

2018-08-15 19:57:36 UTC  

i've seen it too many times and while I know it has it's own problems, I actually would like to see a feasible socialized health care

2018-08-15 19:58:01 UTC  

I'm also for the alterative, making it so damn cheap that everyone can easily afford it through capitalism

2018-08-15 19:58:04 UTC  

either way

2018-08-15 19:58:21 UTC  

I was gonna say, you're going to have to drop the price either way

2018-08-15 19:58:26 UTC  

yup

2018-08-15 19:58:37 UTC  

and I do believe its artificially high right now

2018-08-15 19:58:54 UTC  

due to lack of negotiation

2018-08-15 19:59:12 UTC  

I've completely forgotten this, but.

2018-08-15 19:59:20 UTC  

lack of ability to negotiate I should say

2018-08-15 19:59:28 UTC  

What is it that's caused the medical costs to go through the roof?

2018-08-15 19:59:34 UTC  

I also want Drs to be able to make money

2018-08-15 19:59:40 UTC  

many reasons

2018-08-15 19:59:55 UTC  

... The most disappointing answer of all.

2018-08-15 19:59:57 UTC  

at least in the US

2018-08-15 20:00:02 UTC  

its not just one thing

2018-08-15 20:00:41 UTC  

?

2018-08-15 20:01:10 UTC  

Well you didn't list the things..

2018-08-15 20:01:29 UTC  

do I have to?

2018-08-15 20:01:35 UTC  

I mean its pretty standard reasons

2018-08-15 20:02:00 UTC  

High cost of entry to become a doctor is one

2018-08-15 20:02:19 UTC  

Okay but

2018-08-15 20:02:23 UTC  

I've forgotten the standard reasons.

2018-08-15 20:03:00 UTC  

for-profit insurance, lack of competition, for-profit drug companies, for-profit education for drs, for-profit student loan companies (and btw I'm a capitalist, I just think most of the costs of obfuscated so not easy to compete)

2018-08-15 20:03:04 UTC  

Patients pay the bill ultimately for doctors going to school

2018-08-15 20:03:27 UTC  

Dirty tactics by insurance in general

2018-08-15 20:03:29 UTC  

insruance meanting health insurance and malpractice

2018-08-15 20:04:34 UTC  

hospitals charge different rates and many times you can't just "shop around" because the billing codes are "hidden" unless you know how to navigate the beauracracy

2018-08-15 20:04:44 UTC  

and that's just for starters

2018-08-15 20:05:10 UTC  

and again, I'm for competition and not for socialism, but that's not what we're talking about here