Message from @Beemann

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2018-08-16 19:55:32 UTC  

It's asking about the political, not philosophical

2018-08-16 19:56:29 UTC  

Man I am so glad I changed the quote for my password. Shit was too long

2018-08-16 19:56:57 UTC  

A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they will never sit in.

2018-08-16 19:57:04 UTC  

like "do you think being homosexual is natural" and then assume you want to ban gay marriage or something

2018-08-16 19:57:25 UTC  

Wait, do you think it's unnatural?

2018-08-16 19:57:51 UTC  

i dont really know, lets say i did, that would not mean that i would want to regulate what people do in their bedrooms

2018-08-16 19:58:03 UTC  

No, it doesn't necessarily

2018-08-16 19:58:18 UTC  

I think encouraging gay marriage sorta decreases gay marriage in the future. o:

2018-08-16 19:58:21 UTC  

I don't think that homosexuality contributes to the human race, no.

2018-08-16 19:58:23 UTC  

Think about it.

2018-08-16 19:58:28 UTC  

But it's definitely a signal that you're likely more conservative

2018-08-16 19:58:32 UTC  

Really think about it for a second.

2018-08-16 19:58:42 UTC  

That wasn't the question @RyeNorth

2018-08-16 19:58:53 UTC  

ok so i can be non-politically conservative?

2018-08-16 19:59:05 UTC  

It depends on what you consider 'nature' to be.

2018-08-16 19:59:07 UTC  

because i have no interest in wielding politics from a conservative standpoint

2018-08-16 19:59:24 UTC  

I do not think homosexuality is 'working as intended'. The purpose of sexuality is reproduction.

2018-08-16 19:59:29 UTC  

In that sense, no. It's not natural.

2018-08-16 19:59:31 UTC  

What occurs outside of artificial modification. A computer isn't natural, a snail is

2018-08-16 19:59:39 UTC  

But in that same sense, there's alot about modern sexuality that isn't natural.

2018-08-16 19:59:55 UTC  

There are more purposes for genetic variance than reproduction

2018-08-16 19:59:58 UTC  

One can view homosexuality from the standpoint of inclusive fitness.

2018-08-16 20:00:15 UTC  

Having a gay brother would be an advantage.

2018-08-16 20:00:18 UTC  

Sometimes it's important for the larger group that not everyone is in the mating pool, just from sheer numbers

2018-08-16 20:00:25 UTC  

That too

2018-08-16 20:00:29 UTC  

Sure.

2018-08-16 20:00:46 UTC  

Ultimately, that's the conclusion I come to

2018-08-16 20:00:51 UTC  

Imagine being such a boring person that you make your sexuality the key component of your personality

2018-08-16 20:00:54 UTC  

It's unnatural, but it's not against nature.

2018-08-16 20:00:57 UTC  

so my point is theres no point factoring in my conservative views on a political compass if i don't care about enforcing conservatism politically

2018-08-16 20:01:06 UTC  

Fair

2018-08-16 20:01:16 UTC  

but the tests just assume that i do, and thats why the framing of the questions are stupid

2018-08-16 20:01:24 UTC  

And they might agree if you contacted them. I don't know that anyone has

2018-08-16 20:02:38 UTC  

They do have the questions later as qualifiers, and tiebreakers

2018-08-16 20:03:09 UTC  

The only arguments that are in favor of prevention of homosexuality are authoritarian in nature.

2018-08-16 20:03:41 UTC  

Unless theres a longer term genetic concern

2018-08-16 20:03:54 UTC  

Doesn't make it not authoritarian

2018-08-16 20:04:07 UTC  

What beeman said.

2018-08-16 20:04:18 UTC  

It doesn't matter what your authority is, be it science or god

2018-08-16 20:04:22 UTC  

It's still authoritarian

2018-08-16 20:05:04 UTC  

I still want a utilitarian to explain to me what is wrong with the society in Brave New World :(