Message from @Scribblehatch

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2018-08-25 07:29:59 UTC  

Just as long as it's only proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt rather than preponderance of evidence. Otherwise you risk people not accusing when they're justified in doing so out of fear of going to jail themselves. Some would argue that it would have that effect either way.

2018-08-25 07:30:48 UTC  

Agreed.

2018-08-25 07:30:57 UTC  

Encourage the true accusers. Discourage the sycophants.

2018-08-25 07:31:58 UTC  

It has to be beyond a shadow of doubt in order to get someone jailed

2018-08-25 07:32:10 UTC  

And beyond a shadow of a doubt that your accusation is false to get YOU jailed.

2018-08-25 07:32:39 UTC  

It's things like this where you see the reason it's 'guilty' and 'not guilty' instead of 'guilty' and 'innocent.'

2018-08-25 07:33:03 UTC  

That is why we have Innocent until proven guilty.

2018-08-25 07:33:12 UTC  

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2018-08-25 07:33:14 UTC  

OF course left wants to make it Guilty until Proven innocent.

2018-08-25 07:33:23 UTC  

Mark's on a different page entirely.

2018-08-25 07:33:25 UTC  

Bless him.

2018-08-25 07:33:32 UTC  

O.O....

2018-08-25 07:33:46 UTC  

I came halfway into the conversation.

2018-08-25 07:34:46 UTC  

Okay then, explain to me what you guys are talking about?

2018-08-25 07:34:59 UTC  

German ability to accuse someone, then add how many years you want?

2018-08-25 07:35:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/482815280821567498/Arrest_Her.gif

2018-08-25 07:36:22 UTC  

I think if you were to ask say a stereotypical feminist what they would say about this they'd be likely to say something about how it would provide a tool for abusers to inflict further trauma upon their victims and that it's already stressful/frightening enough for women to face their abuser as is, that adding another layer to it would just make things worse.
To that I'd have to say: Tough. We shouldn't be denying people their chances to be fairly treated by the law because some people may be too afraid to do so take their own chances.

2018-08-25 07:36:52 UTC  

I'd provide examples of the few cases we were able to PROVE the woman was lying

2018-08-25 07:36:55 UTC  

And nothing happened to her

2018-08-25 07:36:59 UTC  

--Actually.

2018-08-25 07:37:01 UTC  

No I wouldn't.

2018-08-25 07:37:05 UTC  

You know what I'd do?

2018-08-25 07:37:28 UTC  

I'd insist that they'd spend the next 37 minutes of their life

2018-08-25 07:37:29 UTC  

Tell them they're dumb?

2018-08-25 07:37:31 UTC  

On this clip

2018-08-25 07:37:36 UTC  

I think if the accuser lies, they must face the same punishment their accused faced.

2018-08-25 07:37:46 UTC  

Mark, you gotta rewind the conversation

2018-08-25 07:37:52 UTC  

To realize we're talking about exactly that. lol

2018-08-25 07:38:00 UTC  

You can't just jump onto the end and ask people to explain it again.

2018-08-25 07:38:13 UTC  

Oh okay. *Shrugs.* Too lazy right now...

2018-08-25 07:38:14 UTC  

You can scroll up, dear boi

2018-08-25 07:38:16 UTC  

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2018-08-25 07:38:29 UTC  

If you tell me you're lazy, I will want to murder you.

2018-08-25 07:38:53 UTC  

Patrice O'Neal went to jail on false rape accusation.

2018-08-25 07:39:04 UTC  

You can't possibly hear his story without believing him.

2018-08-25 07:39:14 UTC  

And HATING the girl's easy inclination to lie.

2018-08-25 07:39:22 UTC  

Not necessarily the girl herself. But she should've been punished.

2018-08-25 07:39:45 UTC  

So she falsefully accused someone, she gets caught and punished. Are the left defending her?