@RyeNorth What do you know about Islam?

what you need to understand is that chinese arnt westerners, they have a completely different psychology than we have, what works for them is VERY different than what works for us. they are collectivist in nature while westerners are natural individualists

The thing is Arch-Fiend, if they were not Chinese citizens then they could just kick them out, the Americans used to deports anarchists when they were not citizens, of course the Americans can't deport American anarchists or or any of their citizens regardless of how bad they are.

What do I NEED to know?

To be blunt: pls read up on Islam, read the Qua'ran and what is inside.

You need to know what the Religion is about!

No. I don't.

I operate on principles.

So what if Nazism is accepted as a Religion?

Are you for or against trying to convert the Nazi-Believers if you have to?

You *NEED to know what the Religion is about*.

I don't care what a damn person believes.

Or rather what is the goal of the Religion.

I care what their actions are.

Actions can be punished.

For example If a religion was puttin gays in camps and torturing them

My country started with punishing nazis for not believing in holocaust, now they want to punish anyone for offending people.

@RyeNorth So if Nazism would be a Religion, you'd defend their right to their Religion?

Sure.

So *NOW* people care what China is doing?

Id defend their right to think and discuss their ideas openly

I'd do to. But what if they want to murder you if you critizize them?

they cant actually murder or threaten you

Beliefs VS actions.

Already forgotten Charlie Hebdo?

Punishable crime

The people who committed the attacks were bad and punished

The people who cheered for the attack were bad and cant be punished

They weren't bad according to their Books.

I don't care what their books say

You should!

The Bible says some horrendous things, too!

Not this arguement again

Hindu caste systems etc

But a) nobody acts on it
b) everyone disavows it in the Bible.

That is the difference!

i dont really think either of you really understand why china is behaving this way

The Chinese hate any kind of organization. Anything that might form a power base to threaten the party is destroyed. They also go after labor unions and large student political organizations that aren't explicitly along party lines.

They were going after Christians. They've got a big issue in Xianjiang where there is a borderline open revolt against the ruling government. It's also a similar situation to Tibet where they are shipping in Han Chinese specifically to displace and pacify the locals. I guess they're now going after the Muslims, except it's a large enough majority that they can't just send up to prisons en masse or control all the churches.

Fast forward TLDR : religion does bad things people dont treat all religions the same

Tell that to the Salem witch trials.

they behave this way with EVERY group of people within china