Message from @RyeNorth
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i dont really think either of you really understand why china is behaving this way
The Chinese hate any kind of organization. Anything that might form a power base to threaten the party is destroyed. They also go after labor unions and large student political organizations that aren't explicitly along party lines.
They were going after Christians. They've got a big issue in Xianjiang where there is a borderline open revolt against the ruling government. It's also a similar situation to Tibet where they are shipping in Han Chinese specifically to displace and pacify the locals. I guess they're now going after the Muslims, except it's a large enough majority that they can't just send up to prisons en masse or control all the churches.
Fast forward TLDR : religion does bad things people dont treat all religions the same
Tell that to the Salem witch trials.
they behave this way with EVERY group of people within china
```i dont really think either of you really understand why china is behaving this way```
Because the Muslim Population causes trouble and violence, don't integrate.
Because their religion tells them that the unbelievers are the worst of creatures.
Because their Religion tells them they are the best of people.
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Because their religion tells them to subdue the Nonbelievers.
I dont care about punishing people for following a religion
So if you think this religion is flawed, you should be able to persecute them based on participation in that religion?
It sets a bad precedent for society to do so
china doesent care about the religon
we've got three-for-one in japan
Any alternative to deal with this Religion?
as far as china cares, the religion is simply a title a group of people have
And you were lecturing me on nazism?
COME ON YOU SICK SON'S OF BITCHES, DON'T YOU EVEN HAVE A SOUL
We just have to kill the bad people and not let the bad people think their ideas and everything will be ok
what the chinese care about is what the group of people with that religion do, buuuuuut unlike western thinkers like rye, the chinese attribute any bad that a person of a group of people do to the entire group
Thats because they are inherently collectivist
@Blackhawk342 No, we should not kill the bad people. And in some cases you'll be able to convince them that they are wrong and there are better ways to do things than the things they do.
The question I asked specifically applied to nazi Germany jews.
Tread carefully. This is why principles matter.
if the muslims suddenly started acting really good to the chinese, even just on an individual basis the chinese would change their tune because they dont actually care about what the religion says, what the people look like (though they will never be chinese they can be good slaves), or what the people think
No you have to kill the bad people otherwise theyll overrun your society and destroy it from within by taking advantage of your good will
the chinese are both incredibly practicle and yet at the same time prone to wide generalizations
Muslium Brotherhood HQ was raided in the US and the FBI found a literal plan to take over the country
@RyeNorth The Groomning Gangs in UK are also acting according to their religion.
Okay..?
That's action.
Freedom of religion != Freedom to do whatever your holy book says
what the chinese can recognize is that their culture is HIGHLY incompatible with islam and thus there will always be an eternal divide between them. this basicly makes it imposible for them to remain a community forever
Islam is straight from the fucking dark ages.
They have not changed.
You've established that action isn't required for your response.
It's just not sane to treat them with the same kid gloves we treat other religions.
china is straight up from antiquity
Bringing up things that have been done doesn't change my position.