Message from @Beemann
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That Religion is par se bad and must be abolished.
Hitchens would crush anyone on this topic.
There's a wealth of footage of him doing it.
Prager wasn't SHIT.
@Ottobon No, it's just that there's two things you usually don't talk about: Politics and Religion.
Usually people talk politics, but it became rather one sided. So now we talk about religion I guess...
He was a monster of the week.
I think you can make the case wrt organized religion being inherently bad
Harris is big on spirituality though
Look, believe what you want. I don't have problem with that but don't come at me that religion is overall good. It's demonstrably not.
Yes and I agree with Beemann that Religions with big Organizations behind them are bad.
For individual, maybe. For humanity, nope.
Crowder isn't able to address Hitchens arguments either.
When Crowder mocks atheists, he goes "YOU JUST SAW A HITCHENS VIDEO AND THOUGHT" etc etc
Well. Crowder.. Can you counter what Hitchens says? You brought him up by name.
Crowder is an Idiot in some cases. SRY....
He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Yeah because religion is a paradox that gets inserted into your life.
You got told Santa Claus isn't real
But God's totalllllly different.
Religion is an easy method of community building and social cohesion
But Santa also proves that kids needs things to believe in.
????
You don't use Santa in a bad way, do you?
denial of the religious reflex in humans is stupid
Idk.. I don't need religion to help my neighbour in need or to have the moral principle of not hurting people around me.
I think that ideologies popping up in societies is pretty much inevitable and that a harmless religion is a good protection from a more harmful ideology, religion or not from popping up
We also have a reflex for wanting to steal shiny objects. No one denies it.
our mind is filled with all kind of things that are not true but evolutionary advantagiosu
Exactly and that is why we must not abolish Religion, we must find a better religion and replace the old ones with the new version!
its hard to replace a religion that had 2000 years + of finetuning
@Senny how involved are you in your community at large? How attached do you feel to the people who live near you? Do you know how they're doing?
Church is an easy way of accomplishing all of that
How is it that social media is getting off scot free right now.
arguably if it was that bad, it would have disappeared like all those other religions of 2k years ago
It's not impossible to do otherwise
@Beemann not at all but I wasn't even when I was young and groomed into religion, it's personality thing, not religious
But it's not terribly common to see it happen eithee
The problem with any religion is that SOME PERCENTAGE of it wants you to take it literally.
It's not though. If you're a churchgoer you will already be interacting with those around you
And then all the people that weren't taking it literally don't say "No" to that person