You do not even understand, or are trolling me, on what I said.

Ok I see you are an admin so allowed to abuse power, I know if I would say the same I get muted or banned, so who is the chant here I wonder.

Lol I see you uphold the same disproven dogma then

I have no interested in talking to you in such a way, but you clearly need to...

Hmm I sence a straw man argument comming

Ah yes there it is, i fear you have a different view on physics and vacuums, but let me get ahead of you, and "nature abhors a vacuum" right?

But since you said it, do you believe that in the globe model, you would feel the spinning???

If not, then it is possible, if yes then I refer to the monorail car analogy for frame of references.

In essence every trail, even a watervapor one, is a chem trail.....
But yeah, there are examples enough of experiments to regulate cloud cover and such for over many decades, although it does not seem covert anymore and projects are allowed publicly, only without much noise ofcourse

You seems to be confusing your flat earth model with the globe one....

When debating tou need to understand both models *separately*, if you do not even understand what is said about how things work in an other model, you cant just follow it in with what you believe...

Not enough otherwise you would not say that the oblateness of the earth and liquid oceans which form a tiny tiny almost microscopic small layer over it, must follow same physics....

That would be a gross oversimplification.....

Please then show me how the forces work mathematically then. Explain which of the forces makes it oblate...

Aha

So when I explain it you deny it and say you fully understand it yourself, but when pressed for this alternative explanation you revert to simplicities?


Do you know how the mass of earth relates to its spin and how the mass of the oceans relates to its spin?

Do you really? Or are you gonna stick with "it spins so it must fly off"?

You didn't even answer mine!

It is your rebuttal so go ahead. And please do not ask overly obvious questions and get to the core of the physics then.

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Yes yes earth is oblate and yes yes water doesn't fly of it but it does accumulate at the equator a bit. Though there is also the tides of the moon which juggle the oceans around faster.

You know what I am saying, the question was unnecessary if you truly understood physics and the globe...

Lol, I can not refer to cars for frames of reference and "experiencing the earth move" then you can not use scaled down (and wrong representing) versions within earths atmosphere!

Ok why a balloon then?

And what is the mass of the balloon?

And the size?

And the size of the things on it compared to earth?

Ok what is the balloon made of and how big is it?

Ok, granite, dolomite, chalkstone or something else?

Ok

How big is it?

It does ...

Because of its size

No it would not

I understand the spambot but I hope he gets reset after a while....

Well if I go into explanation you all would say I am presuming things, so let me try asking why water sticks to a glass when I shake it violently. You all also know of cohesive forces I hope, this shows that you idea that an outward force like a centrifugal force must be allpowerfull is a wrong presumption on it's own.

So yeah the force of the huge size of earth is great enough to hold that ridiculously thin layer of water on the surface, scientists can show calculations, flat earthers can show videos of spinning tennisballs...

@Citizen Z I was a dishwasher in my first school jobs time, water does stick to thing on it's own, that shows that it can even beat pretty hard forces.

But again, cohesive forces alone do not get the water to stick to earth, the huge size of solid earth itself is what keeps it there, but the earth crust itself is massive enough to still show the oblateness.

Water sticks to anything @citizen I thought u knew physics but clearly have not heard of the cohesive force of water

Size matters @97 Eleven

It does have an effect

Just to small for you to see in a glass of water

Never said it does not

You presume it does not

Cause you want the earth to be small (like someone else explained they need to feel special and therefore the universe must ne small) but the size difference is just mindboggling big between an ocean and a glass of water or a water tub. Also a small.lakr is a small container, while the oceans are connected containers spanning the globe, those room for those humongous bodies of water to move....

@Citizen Z look through a telescope to titan. Do you know why I ask this?

No not because of that

See I specifically asked titan...

You want proof of a spinning ball with liquids on it.... look towards titian. It has large large lakes and spins and nothing flies of it

Ofcourse I could be dealing with projection type fellas in which case this is useless

And now I guess frantic Google searches for debunking titan are going on.... really if you know 0hysics you have also seen a lot about planets and moons and should have know titan has large liquid lakes with even less dense material then water in liquid form there. Which also poses problems for the buoyancy hypotheses of some flat earthers.....

Oh show me a picture of a flar earth you took first

Again a fallacy

The generic fallacy

Works both ways

What picture did you take of flar earth ?

Not a horizon one please

Lool no I will not go down that road. You ask a planet with liquids, then look toward titan

No the reason is every time someone posts a space picture you deny it as fake or nasa photoshop so yeah that is not something I will waste my time on.

You can research spectroscopy and use Google scholar for pictures upon pictures of titan and its lakes and simply shoitat your own brozwers "fake"

You have no real pictures of earth in the centre of the u iverse too so please stop that nonsense kind of circular reasoning

Well for seeing titan I guess there are some high end amateur telescopes, for the lakes you have a lot of footage from the Cassini huygens mission, but yeah o know I know "fake!"

Ah you found em and said its fake

What a surprise

Dude, if you knew anything about spectroscopy you can get the raw data and see for yourself what was transmitted from.millions of km away and what it is

The please do never post pictures yourself anymore unless u want to be double satndards

No I said start with spectroscopy to understand more about the other planets and light and optics

But I guess since you also "know" physics you also know that...

See, all I encounter are dogmas here and I even predicted what you would say, if anyone is indoctrinated .....

No you do NOT have to trust them

Science is intrinsically distrustful of everything

Hence through a lot of ways you can verify that there are things up there and you can verify what they sent.

Not according to those ridiculous standards

Well a picture that proves flat earth needs to encompass the whole flare earth

Only then you can say to have a picture of "the flat earth" else you only have portions of it

Yeah that famous ice wall would also be good to see

Saying you can never see it is circular reasoning

Oh what is it then this time? A dome for you?

And if anyone changes the subject it is you, you still haven't answered some water related questions and plainly deny everything unless someone can pick you up and drop you at the lakes of titan. Then there is no debate possible only dogma

Always with nasa

You do know there are around millions and millions of people in different universities and organisations and such who work independently, apparently all to thwart some thousands of people who feel.insecure if the universe is too big...

Flatties asking for pics they do not want! Again double standards citizen!

Same old script