MusicalProgrammer

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2019-06-14 22:10:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-08-28 20:17:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561988982884270088/616011193735446529/contrast.gif So, I made this gif from a YouTube video. I don't know if there's a common argument to this or not, so that's why I'm here. Just to get an answer and be happy.

2019-08-28 20:18:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's regarding weather balloons and curvature.

2019-08-28 20:18:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Two frames.

2019-08-28 20:20:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah, I only added a horizontal line.

2019-08-28 20:24:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Anyway to describe the picture I made... You will notice that the horizon changes position at different heights, and that despite going below the horizon line, it doesn't concave like you'd expect if you were on the surface.
So what's the argument for this?

2019-08-28 20:25:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yup. That was the purpose.

2019-08-28 20:28:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I already confronted a flat earther with it, and all I got in return was dead silence. I'm hoping someone here will actually say something.

2019-08-28 20:30:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah, it's annoying when they do that. I was tempted to make a 3D sphere model with fisheye lens and make a gif that shows the problem with flattening the horizon that way.

2019-08-29 00:16:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So... Does anyone have a comment on the picture I posted? Need sources? Details? Anything?

2019-08-29 00:18:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's a gif where I demonstrate what I'll just say is a curvature of some sort.

2019-08-29 00:18:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Taken from a weather balloon video on YouTube.

2019-08-29 00:19:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The horizon line was added in myself, and the two pictures are from the same video.

2019-08-29 00:21:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The image was also squished horizontally, as it removes any existing doubt a person might have if the curvature changed or not. I have the normal unsquished version too if you insist I post it.

2019-08-29 00:28:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Thinking about talking more. That's all.

2019-08-29 00:29:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I think I said everything I need to.

2019-08-29 19:35:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I agree. So, what about mine?

2019-08-29 19:40:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Two screenshots taken from the same video. Though perhaps the smudge marks give it away. I've got the source video anyway.

2019-08-29 22:38:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Dang, I must've missed it...

2019-08-29 22:40:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ah yes... That.

2019-08-29 22:40:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I made a chart awhile back using a YouTube video, that had a thermometer attached to their weather balloon.

2019-08-29 22:42:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

90,000 feet for altitude, and the type of camera is a lousy GoPro.

2019-08-29 22:43:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm not sure I understand the objection to the landmass.

2019-08-29 22:44:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Are you saying it somehow disproves the globe?

2019-08-29 22:45:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I may be able to prove otherwise if it somehow disproves the globe.

2019-08-29 22:46:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Spheres look weird when you put a camera extremely close to it.

2019-08-29 22:47:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I can demonstrate it if you want.

2019-08-29 22:47:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Although at the moment the best I got is Blender 3D and a large sphere.

2019-08-29 22:48:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I may do a better curvature gif if you have any suggestions.

2019-08-29 22:55:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Added fisheye lens for good measure, to simulate most weather balloon videos.

2019-08-29 22:56:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I can do a non fisheye version if you require it.

2019-08-29 22:58:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And that's perfectly okay.

2019-08-29 23:01:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I don't mind either way if the world is flat or round. I just happen to believe it's round.

2019-08-30 18:11:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So, I'm taking the time to better understand the document I was sent yesterday... I don't know if I should dispute the interpretation or not. I'm not really interested in converting anyone, I'm just hungry to be wrong about stuff that I'm convinced are true.

2019-08-30 18:15:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Anyway, when the camera goes high in altitude... I don't see explicitly where they say: "This makes the horizon curve." They mention Field Curvature, but that appears to be an entirely different thing.

2019-08-30 18:16:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I looked it up and tried to understand exactly what it is.

2019-08-30 18:17:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I get pictures of an image blurring around the corners when I look up examples.

2019-08-30 18:24:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I probably missed something.

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