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2019-08-03 01:24:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Is it referring to how a majority of rocket technology of Cold War era came from German scientists?

2019-08-03 01:25:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Thatโ€™s probably it

2019-08-03 01:25:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh yes absolutely it was all kinds of knowledge and advances

2019-08-03 01:25:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

German scientists were world leaders in the realm of knowledge and discoveries at the time

2019-08-03 01:25:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Truly brilliant individuals

2019-08-03 01:27:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Elon Musk hell yeah

2019-08-03 01:27:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

South Africa is a safe bet right

2019-08-03 01:27:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

All right whatโ€™s wrong with South Africa

2019-08-03 01:27:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Lay it on me

2019-08-03 01:34:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What are these photos that show light bending up

2019-08-03 01:34:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I just wanna know what it looks like cause like

2019-08-03 01:34:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

?

2019-08-03 01:35:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Do you mean like a beam of light shone through air actually bends *upward*

2019-08-03 01:36:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Astrophysics is hella interesting

2019-08-03 01:36:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Takes a lot of work but super interesting

2019-08-03 01:37:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Also hey while Iโ€™m here Iโ€™ve always wondered something about flat earthers but never had the chance to ask

2019-08-03 01:38:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Even if earth is flat or round or whatever else you wanna believe, why does it matter?

2019-08-03 01:39:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Like we are all very obviously alive here and not directly affected by the shape of the planet we live on

2019-08-03 01:39:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Now who in 2019 aside from top level well trained professionals will be going to space

2019-08-03 01:39:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iโ€™m just legitimately curious about why it matters to you and me

2019-08-03 01:40:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Common folks like us

2019-08-03 01:40:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I mean no other animal on the planet thinks about much of anything complex much less the shape of the planet

2019-08-03 01:40:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And they get on just fine

2019-08-03 01:40:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What does the shape of the planet have to do with โ€œdoing the right thingโ€ though

2019-08-03 01:41:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iโ€™m not trying to pester you, Iโ€™m just really curious

2019-08-03 01:42:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I understand that general beliefs are fundamental parts that make up morals and all that but what does the shape of the planet have to do with that

2019-08-03 01:43:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The only time it ever even comes to mind is if I have some spare time and am just thinking about random stuff for the hell of it

2019-08-03 01:43:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it has never factored into any part of my morals or major decision making

2019-08-03 01:44:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I could attack the flat earth model and the logic of it all but why do that when the concept of arguing over it doesnโ€™t really add up in the first place

2019-08-03 01:46:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know humans are competitive creatures by nature and will look for conflict where it may not even exist, but I feel like surely there could be a more fulfilling or logical conflict than arguing over the shape of the planet

2019-08-03 01:47:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well then letโ€™s argue over the shape of the planet when space travel is widely available

2019-08-03 01:48:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know curiosity and deep thought are grand concepts that have launched humanity eons ahead of other species

2019-08-03 01:49:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Absolutely

2019-08-03 01:50:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know in the scheme of things Iโ€™ll always be hit with labels like atheist and โ€œglobe eartherโ€ I guess but those labels leave me misinterpreted by the vast majority

2019-08-03 01:51:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Because the truth is that I donโ€™t want to blatantly attack any viewpoint

2019-08-03 01:51:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iโ€™m honestly open to anything

2019-08-03 01:51:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I simply favor whichever has been further proven from my perspective

2019-08-03 01:51:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s a figure of speech what do you want me to say

2019-08-03 01:53:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hypothesis: Gravity accelerates things towards each other

2019-08-03 01:53:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Procedure: Measure the forces and motion of large interacting bodies observable from earth

2019-08-03 01:54:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Use several sets of bodies to decrease possible error

2019-08-03 01:55:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well for motion there are several ways

2019-08-03 01:55:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Depending on the distance you can use anything from triangulation by parallax to doppler shifts to hubbleโ€™s law

2019-08-03 01:55:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Or a combination

2019-08-03 01:56:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

for forces use those measurements and use basic equations of physics to solve for the forces

2019-08-03 01:56:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You actually donโ€™t and iโ€™ll tell you why

2019-08-03 01:57:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You need a telescope that can track coordinates if you want to be really accurate but you can free hand it for a ball park estimate

2019-08-03 01:57:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But hereโ€™s how you can measure movement

2019-08-03 01:58:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Use some form of celestial body distance measurement tool like I mentioned before

2019-08-03 01:58:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes and Iโ€™m explaining how

2019-08-03 01:59:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So now that you know the distance to said body you can plot its position in the sky

2019-08-03 01:59:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hubbleโ€™s law is a convenient tool

2019-08-03 01:59:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I wonโ€™t explain Hubbleโ€™s law cause you can look it up

2019-08-03 02:00:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Anyways itโ€™s an easy way to see how far away stuff is

2019-08-03 02:00:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Thatโ€™s what a hypothesis is

2019-08-03 02:00:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iโ€™m not jumping to a conclusion

2019-08-03 02:00:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Iโ€™m proposing a conclusion to see whether i can prove it

2019-08-03 02:00:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Anyways let me continue

2019-08-03 02:01:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Plot its position with your regular telescope

2019-08-03 02:01:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Now wait 6 months and see how far it has moved

2019-08-03 02:01:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Now compare that to where youโ€™d expect it to be based on calculations using the distance previously obtained

2019-08-03 02:02:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I never said that

2019-08-03 02:02:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

??

2019-08-03 02:02:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hubbleโ€™s law tells you how far away stuff is

2019-08-03 02:03:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

A useful tool to determine how stuff moves

2019-08-03 02:03:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Itโ€™s basically the relationship between distance and the rate at which stuff is accelerating away from us

2019-08-03 02:03:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Caused by expansion

2019-08-03 02:04:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Lit

2019-08-03 02:04:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

All right so

2019-08-03 02:04:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Idk moving channels really cut off the flow of conversation

2019-08-03 02:05:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Relationship between distance and rate of acceleration away from us caused by expansion

2019-08-03 02:06:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh shoot iโ€™m trying to think of how to do this

2019-08-03 02:07:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Cause it doesnโ€™t really fit any analogy because itโ€™s literally telling how far something is away based on how reality itself expands in between us

2019-08-03 02:07:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not a whole lot of common household objects that behave that way

2019-08-03 02:07:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Mind explaining what each type entails?

2019-08-03 02:08:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I havenโ€™t heard of there being two types

2019-08-03 02:08:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What do you mean by mass v mass

2019-08-03 02:08:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As in like mass attracts mass

2019-08-03 02:10:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Grav they have an answer for that

2019-08-03 02:10:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Constant acceleration โ€œupwardโ€

2019-08-03 02:10:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

or whatever

2019-08-03 02:11:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Then what do they think is real

2019-08-03 02:11:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@rivenator12113 what about density attracts you down

2019-08-03 02:12:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oooh buoyancy hmmm

2019-08-03 02:12:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah air is matter just like anything else

2019-08-03 02:12:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So what holds air in place

2019-08-03 02:12:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh right

2019-08-03 02:14:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ideally youโ€™d have chosen two relatively isolated bodies and just analyze the forces acting on them and try to trace a source for each one

2019-08-03 02:14:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh boy is wind fake now too

2019-08-03 02:14:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There go my plans of flying a kite

2019-08-03 02:15:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Also there are lots of gases denser than air so weโ€™d all suffocate at the bottom

2019-08-03 02:15:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well actually air is pretty homogenous mixture so maybe we wouldnโ€™t suffocate

2019-08-03 02:16:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

f l e r f

2019-08-03 02:16:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh you mean on this server

2019-08-03 02:16:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That sounds like a slur lel

2019-08-03 02:19:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Back when hygiene didnโ€™t exist

2019-08-03 02:19:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Iโ€™m always a little confused as to why people proscribe to the flat earth stuff though

2019-08-03 02:19:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

is it out of rebellion

2019-08-03 02:19:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

who knows

2019-08-03 02:20:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I mean

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