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2018-06-09 03:27:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Obamaโ€™s a Jew

2018-06-09 14:05:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

To answer the question: No, not chiefly. Two big reasons IMO:
- โ€œcanโ€™t criticize Jews or youโ€™re anti Semiticโ€ effect. Allows you to get away with a lot
- Highest average IQ among Jews

2018-06-09 14:05:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Also Jewish culture has great teachings on business and money. Survivors of constant persecution throughout history make them ambitious by default as a culture, too.

2018-06-09 14:09:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Theyโ€™re in top positions everywhere. But still no proof thereโ€™s a Jewish conspiracy of some sort

2018-06-09 17:20:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Christians are pussies these days but I think so is almost everyone in America

2018-06-09 17:21:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Developed world has made us all soft

2018-06-09 17:21:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

All the Christian heroes were the biggest badasses though

2018-06-09 17:27:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

And yes Jewish history is hardship after hardship and has made their culture ultra resilient

2018-06-09 17:29:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Christian history is too, but the thing with Christianity is itโ€™s not a culture in the same way as an ethnic culture is.

2018-06-11 01:41:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Open borders are great in an economy/government without any welfare change my mind

2018-06-11 01:42:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

As in free movement of people

2018-06-11 01:43:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Because those who come must submit to the rule of the land: capitalism and itโ€™s values

2018-06-11 01:43:37 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

And when there arenโ€™t enough jobs they will stop coming

2018-06-11 01:43:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Worker supply and demand

2018-06-11 01:51:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

No welfare -> immigrants have to work and help the economy or leave

2018-06-11 01:51:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

And well, maybe free flow of ideas is a good thing, as long as everyone shares the values that capitalism forces on you

2018-06-11 01:53:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Whatโ€™s the essence of their system @Obungus ?

2018-06-11 01:55:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Dayum

2018-06-11 01:55:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Strict shit

2018-06-11 01:56:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Without immigration what do you do when thereโ€™s a shortage of labor?

2018-06-11 01:56:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Like the west will have a crazy demographic imbalance soon

2018-06-11 01:56:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

In 30 years

2018-06-11 01:56:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

So many old people

2018-06-11 01:57:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Yeah but just workers in general

2018-06-11 01:57:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

When the West keeps replacing itself at less than 50% (I donโ€™t remember exact number)

2018-06-11 01:57:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Where do we end up in USA especially

2018-06-11 01:57:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Thatโ€™s an economic issue waiting to happen

2018-06-11 01:58:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Yeah I bet they do

2018-06-11 01:58:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Czech Republic does too

2018-06-11 01:58:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Extremely nationalist for good reason

2018-06-11 01:58:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

They have a really violent history with Islam too

2018-06-11 02:00:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

How do you think USA can solve its future demographic issues

2018-06-11 02:01:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Aside from getting people to value family again, assuming we canโ€™t do that

2018-06-11 02:01:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Immigration is a good argument to fix that imo

2018-06-11 02:01:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

If we have a way to incentivize immigrants to like western values and contribute to economy

2018-06-11 02:02:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

You do one of those by removing welfare

2018-06-11 02:02:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Not sure about the other

2018-06-11 02:03:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Yeah without English speaking or always having the same value system (a lot due to welfare state) it could become an issue

2018-06-11 02:07:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Yeah drugs

2018-06-11 14:52:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Just remove the laws shielding them

2018-06-11 14:52:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

don't make it more complicated

2018-06-11 14:52:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

when you have to add regulation on top of regulation to deal with the regulation it becomes hell

2018-06-11 14:52:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

And this would be too subjective and up for interpretation

2018-06-11 22:48:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

This is why I brought up open borders plus zero welfare state

2018-06-11 22:48:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

immigrants can come in but there is no support system for them

2018-06-11 22:48:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Then supply and demand dictates how many immigrants want to come in

2018-06-11 22:48:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

And immigrants have to speak the language and adopt the basic values of the land to make it (keep a job)

2018-06-11 22:49:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

It seems like the market can just regulate how many workers are in it, right?

2018-06-11 22:49:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

And those who come in and can't support themselves, well, they will have to leave or be homeless. Reality is harsh.

2018-06-11 22:49:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

what do you guys think of the theory

2018-06-11 22:50:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I see how it makes people work but I don't necessarily see how it forces people to learn english and adopt western values

2018-06-11 22:50:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But maybe that isn't necessary, maybe it's ok to have chinatowns and spanishtowns and muslimtowns if there's no support system and just the law and the market

2018-06-11 22:50:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Yes

2018-06-11 22:50:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

As it was in the early 1900s

2018-06-11 22:51:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

ok, can you break down your reasoning please

2018-06-11 22:51:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

the way I see it immigrants can fulfill an economic need especially when a country isn't replacing itself fast enough (US) and balance out demographic issues that lead to not enough workforce

2018-06-11 22:51:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

the problem is when they have opposing values or don't work

2018-06-11 22:52:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

yes but WHY do they drag the economy down?

2018-06-11 22:53:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

what if they didn't get welfare and tax money

2018-06-11 22:53:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

and they had to contribute, leave, or die

2018-06-11 22:53:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

just like anyone who lives here

2018-06-11 22:54:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The only people dragging the economy down are the people who create less dollars in the economy than their life takes away.

2018-06-11 22:55:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I'm not convinced open borders is right

2018-06-11 22:55:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

but i am pretty convinced that anyone who matches the country's language, values, and works is a positive

2018-06-11 22:56:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"black people" being a problem is due to welfare state.

2018-06-11 22:56:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Look at the timing of the black family being crushed.

2018-06-11 22:56:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

It's when welfare state came in.

2018-06-11 22:56:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Yes. You should watch some Thomas Sowell from the 70s. He says the same thing.

2018-06-11 22:56:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Right when the black family started to break statistically

2018-06-11 22:56:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

was right after welfare state came in.

2018-06-11 22:57:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

vobeyo please look at the single-parent home statistics

2018-06-11 22:57:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

and the timing of them

2018-06-11 22:57:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

for black families

2018-06-11 22:57:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

and see that it coincides almost exactly with the increase of the welfare state

2018-06-11 22:58:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

you give any people all the free shit and it actually *breaks* them

2018-06-11 22:58:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

any people group

2018-06-11 22:58:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

and yes, there is an argument for IQ, genetics, and race realism.

2018-06-11 22:59:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But can you please explain why the black family functioned well before the welfare state

2018-06-11 22:59:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

statistics vobeyo.

2018-06-11 23:00:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

black single parent home percentage over time

2018-06-11 23:00:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

giving a people group extra free shit actually breaks that people group

2018-06-11 23:00:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

black people have unequal opportunity

2018-06-11 23:02:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

There *is* a separate point about Race and IQ which is true and really sucks. IQ is largely genetic. And racial history is genetic history. Jews and asians for example have the highest aggregate IQs.

Vobeyo is basing his arguments exclusively on this to say 'black people hopeless yo lololol'

2018-06-11 23:03:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

However.

2018-06-11 23:03:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Those are averages only.

2018-06-11 23:03:37 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

And you can find sooo many lower IQ people who succeed.

2018-06-11 23:03:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

If not succeed, they contribute to society.

2018-06-11 23:03:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

IQ alone cannot be the only factor here.

2018-06-11 23:03:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

There are outside factors too.

2018-06-11 23:04:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Again, look at historical stats.

2018-06-11 23:04:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I for one enjoy the internet, it's the only place people feel free to argue these opinions

2018-06-11 23:04:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

and argue them we must

2018-06-11 23:05:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

so let's do it

2018-06-11 23:05:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

lol

2018-06-11 23:05:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Look

2018-06-11 23:06:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

reality is tragic, wrong, and harmful. And IQ does change between races. And it unfortunately must be talked about it.

2018-06-11 23:06:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

However, it does not change the value of humans whatsoever.

2018-06-11 23:06:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

And people of lower IQ can contribute and be stable

2018-06-11 23:07:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@Roman Dmowski how much factor do you think the 'brain drain' has on modern africa?

2018-06-11 23:07:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

e.g., all smart people can get out and go to a better place

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