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Yeah frankly the whole anti-Jew thing is kind of cringey and does nothing but hurt our cause
>fundamentally going against my principles to blame a small ethnic group
Even if it were true, how does it help our cause to be actively against them
That's the difference between myself and the barbarians.
Whether Semites are what you claim is up for conjecture, my friend
What? I don't have to be antisemetic to be a western traditionalist, a lover of Christendom, and a hater of communism.
We're all in this together, wether you like it or not. And wether communism is Jewish is entirely irrelevant to our mission. What matters is that we survive the culture war, not point fingers prematurely. I will entertain the jq once we have made it past the battle at hand.
That is a fair point. What matters to me, atm is that we get the normies to side with us. And if there's anything I know about normies, it's that they're terrified of anything involving even vaguely racist ideas (I know of course that we aren't)
So if we hold off on that stuff until later, it may be strategically to our well being
Yeah that's true, I'm just hypothesizing from how my red pilling went and how people around me think. We've got to take it slowly and tactically with that sort of thing if we really want to hook people. That's how the progressives have done such a good job recruiting, for example: they use foot-in-the-door techniques
Which is exactly why we have to be careful, this is an asymmetrical war we're fighting against the left
The right has been losing hard (globally) for the past 60+ years, and it will take many more before we can even hope to come out on top
@ᛉ Sverð ᛉ I'm about to go asleep so I'm gonna leave this convo until tomorrow but I would say that the culture war began from a combination of the proliferation of socialism post Great Depression, proxy wars and communism, and the logical continuation of progressive philosophy.
I think the question he is trying to ask is what are we accomplishing by being here, tangibly
just like how commies implicitly sign a contract to be thrown off of a heli by admitting they are commies
libertarian is way different from conservative depending on how its defined @Neoreactionary
@D.iogenes the problem with that is that we're in a situation where that is now impossible, we have to work with what we've got since we can't ethically remove any of them
I'm an adherent to objective morality <:deusvult:317585515505385472>
idk if that's something debatable @D.iogenes i guess its an axiom
Imo a decentralized modified confederacy would work fine without splitting anything
the regions with people who dont care about freedom would only be able to fuck themselves up locally, and so everyone else would be unaffected
a confederacy would be more true to the founders than what we have now
china is going to be a huge problem for the west in the long run, they'll be able to outproduce everything else due to lower safety/ethical regulations
that and isnt the vast majority of the chinese poor too
to be fair though in the 90's everyone thought there was going to be a world water war in the 2000's
on the flip side it could have stayed as incompetent as before the world wars too
"even communist" thats the thing, its always spearheaded by a maniac, because only a maniac would do so. its a catch 22
thats what happens when a bunch of slavs are in the middle of an icey wasteland
imo @Manimalia idpol is a new concept that has no place in big boy government, but i know a lot of people would disagree
yeah the steppes are the only reason they haven't been destroyed, you just cant get past it
oh yeah but no one is trying to invade them atm, everyone is afraid of war now
imo we should be laying the ground work for what we want to survive past the west, trump has done nothing but bought us precious time
maybe, maybe not, all i know is that we are running out of time
a big bad is easy to fight, a thousand tiny grey areas is unstoppable
cough *bernie if he wasnt a pansy that cant admit it* cough
in my estimation a communist in practice is a socialist, not much difference
yeah he's a useful idiot for the progressive leviathon
minorities are the only poor people who shoot eachother
explain the appalachians (idfk if thats the correct spelling)
perhaps, imo culture is a bigger influence at least in US but culture has de facto racial lines
and you need a monoculture, multiculturalism is a myth
homogeneity is a benefit to a flourishing society, not a guarentee. you can have a shitty country with one ethnicity
take most african countries, islamic countries, china for example
i dont mean strong, i mean good as in virtuous, fully functioning
and also you can have a non-shit ethnicity and still have a shit country (sweden)
i suppose there are other systems that could work with a more diverse population
if you want god tier feudalism do anarcho capitalism and wait 20 minutes
that's debatable, but its a free country, you be fascist if you want
ill rephrase: I don't *respecfully* disagree, but i am bound within the rules of this server and therefore am forced to do so
i didnt know the extent of what we can do in this thread
the one thing europoors got correct was conscription
I like the idea of one not being a citizen until they do a sweden-style 1 year service
i thought they were both critiques, just on different things
the movie is still damn good imo, when you're aware of the critique it's hilarious in a weird way
that's p much why democracy isnt inherently virtuous
yeah but couldnt you have a direct democracy with a dictator that must be voted on
they dont really work in practice, they're the absence of system
"Elections occur only in single-candidate races where the candidate is effectively selected beforehand by the WPK."
to be esoteric, how is having only 2 selected by their respective parties any better
it's really hard to tell, considering that little war that they dealt with
doesnt jingoism also lead to a rome situation eventually
the problem with that though, is that the real problems don't kick in untill far later down the road (if we're talking about the socialist form of it)
and corporations would be in favor of immigration to gt cheap labor
why not have an isolationalist policy that cant be democratically removed, and instate capitalism internally
why would anyone want a small business search engine, it would be terrible though
global capitalism would only be good if all countries had the same standards, and werent trying to kill eachother and that will NEVER happen
see capitalism is giving us the best possible graphics eber
And to think a week ago they had a meeting with right wing channels to try to mend the rift and fix shit
ill have you know im a radical enlightened™ centrist skeptic, im unstoppable
on the strawpoll what would a constitutional capitalist confederacy where women cant vote be
i doubt there are many other people who are in favor of such a gov't, except maybe traditionalists
because if everyone were to do that society would fall apart
there's a difference between something being outlawed and something being discouraged though
so by outlawing rape, I'm encouraging the suppression of other freedoms?
i dont operate under the premise that freedom is inherently virtuous
but why is social freedom a goal if it isn't virtuous? shouldn't a functioning society be a higher goal?
the NAP implies that as long as you don't violate other's freedoms you may do as you please. this only functions off of the premise that the NAP, and by proxy, social freedom, is inherently virtuous
so in doing that you /do/ think freedom is inherently a virtue
exactly @Anarchyng i was ancap then i took the traditionalist pill
but yeah i don't think freedom is the highest moral good, i think that a society should be going for other goods
which is why i think it's only necessary to culturally discourage rather than to outlaw
in my mind traditionalism is shorthand for returning to old society where christendom, pre-sexual revolution values, and objective morality are enforced. that can mean a lot of things, of course.
this is what a lot of traditionalists generally mean, as in western christendom
american traditionalist might be better, but america has some deep set libertine ideas i disagree with
that's up for debate @RAF, and the new sort of reactionary traditionalists that i agree with are struggling with the specifics
if you'd like to debate the sexual revolution, i think that could be an interesting convo
I dislike it because it, imo, caused the destruction of the family unit, the destruction of the black community, and by extension, a breakdown into SJW liberalism
why use a bottle when she has a perfectly good bladder uwu
is it really their fault for being normie though? they were indoctrinated from the start, nothing could be done for them
just think, we are exactly like them, but we got lucky
if we win the culture war, we can make right wing the new normie. you can make whatever the hell you want the new normie
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