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2018-01-15 02:25:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I have no doubt that Europe will fix itself at some point, the thing is about the immigrants over there are mostly opportunistic economic migrants who don't stay if they don't get anything

2018-01-15 02:25:57 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I remember a story about Denmark where they slashed benefits for migrants and then in a single night, 40000 people left the country

2018-01-15 02:28:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I can see that sort of argument made for a lot of areas, but I also see parties like the AfD in Germany making a lot of gains and feeling at least a bit of hope for them

2018-01-15 02:29:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's a tough thing

2018-01-15 02:29:50 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the accelerationism meme may manifest over there, I hope they get unfucked before it comes to that, but I'm not quite sure

2018-01-15 02:30:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

point being, the migrants there would go back to their countries if they had no social net

2018-01-15 02:31:07 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'm not really thinking too far in that direction, but I'd say that cutting welfare for immigrants could solve the problem easily

2018-01-15 02:32:19 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's like you look at Poland, there's no immigrants there even though it's in the Schengen area, the reason? Economic migrants want money.

2018-01-15 02:33:23 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I believe eventually what would happen is that there would be a lot of nations over there which obtain governments similar to the one Austria has, and after that, migrants would have an exodus back to their homelands

2018-01-15 02:34:05 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if there's no free ride, there's no point in staying, I'd rather be living in a homeland which speaks my language, which there's plenty of in the Middle-East

2018-01-15 02:35:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I mean, put yourself in their shoes. You speak Arabic, you go to Europe because they don't offer dental in Turkey or Jordan. You live an easy life, then the government takes away your incentive. Why wouldn't you go back? Wouldn't you much rather be in a country which speaks your language than which doesn't?

2018-01-15 02:37:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I seriously doubt that 90% are there because they legitimately want to do the Islamic world domination stuff.

2018-01-15 02:38:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

It's much more realistic that a person wants to live comfortably. Occam's razor.

2018-01-15 02:46:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

looks like a good analysis

2018-01-15 02:47:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the amount of beige states is very whitepilling

2018-01-15 02:48:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I like the fact it includes a candidate next to it

2018-01-15 02:48:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

is this the bookmakers analysis?

2018-01-15 02:48:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

sauce would be pretty good

2018-01-15 02:49:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

IMO Wisconsin is pretty winnable

2018-01-15 02:51:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

based on this we should expect 54/55 senators on our side?

2018-01-15 02:52:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's very good

2018-01-15 02:53:01 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's about the margin we have in the house

2018-01-15 02:54:12 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

wouldn't be too certain about that

2018-01-15 02:54:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'd put our cap at 59

2018-01-15 02:56:53 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

what is the sauce btw

2018-01-15 02:58:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

ah ok

2018-01-15 02:59:02 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's probably better than most polls

2018-01-15 02:59:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the betting percentages had to come from somewhere though, right?

2018-01-15 03:06:29 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

+3.6% in the last week

2018-01-15 03:06:32 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

so that's good

2018-01-15 03:11:15 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

good night guys

2018-01-15 14:32:41 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah

2018-01-15 14:33:23 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

probably would be the best chance of getting that seat in a state that is extremely blue

2018-01-16 00:27:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

So I've researched and found some projections for the house that are fairly whitepilling

2018-01-16 00:28:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they're from fairvote, a pretty accurate firm from what I've found

2018-01-16 00:30:08 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

basically, the high confidence projections they have (which from past analyses they've accurately predicted 99.7% of, so it's extremely likely they'll get all of them right bar one or two at most) has 205 R seats and 163 D seats

2018-01-16 00:31:05 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this gives a field of about 63 seats in competition

2018-01-16 00:32:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

218 seats are needed to have a majority, meaning Rs would need to grab at least 13 seats out of the 63 in play in order to keep the house

2018-01-16 00:32:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

obviously we want much more than this for legislative purposes, but this effectively prevents any impeachment attempts

2018-01-16 00:34:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Now, if there's a 2006-esque "blue wave" with a similar makeup to that year, w/ 54% dems and 46% Rs, that still gives Rs a majority of 226 seats, at least according to FairVote

2018-01-16 00:35:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this is about 52% of the House of Representatives which would be Republican, or to give a frame of reference, about the same margin that we had in the senate before Moore's loss

2018-01-16 00:37:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Not good in my opinion, but not apocalyptic. I think the average House Republican is much more on Trump's side than the average House Democrat (anecdotal, but still my opinion), so Trump would still be able to get some good bills in I assume.

2018-01-16 00:38:01 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah, damn

2018-01-16 00:38:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

btw don't let these results get you delusional or anything

2018-01-16 00:39:38 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

for all I know, the dems could get a ton more seats than what's considered the "blue wave" in that scenario.

2018-01-16 00:44:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

our goals this year are to:
a) maintain the margins in the House, as they're decent at getting legislation passed even with Cuck Ryan.
b) increase the margins in the Senate, as they're the ones effectively blocking legislation from getting passed with a couple Senators
c) maybe get Ryan unseated, as he is a poison pill for Trump's agenda.
The cucks in the senate are already retiring, so we'd also need to make sure to prevent Romney from getting office in Utah.

2018-01-16 00:47:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

gotta go, anyways.

2018-01-17 00:13:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they could end up being a very good metric for the federal elections

2018-01-17 00:14:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

are there any results yet?

2018-01-17 00:15:08 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

alright, well let's keep the fingers crossed then

2018-01-17 03:01:08 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

some news concerning the wisconsin state special election

2018-01-17 03:02:45 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Jarchow is the R, so this should be good news to come

2018-01-17 03:04:10 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

It's not really important in the sense of needing the seat itself, but it still gives us a bit of an idea as to attitudes

2018-01-17 03:23:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

can I get someone else to bump the thread other than me

2018-01-17 04:50:35 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

well, we're going to work hard then, aren't we

2018-01-17 04:51:33 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

well then

2018-01-17 04:51:50 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

what were the ballotpedia results

2018-01-17 04:53:32 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

definitely not a good sign of things to come as they are, but the thing is the political environment 10 months from now can be radically different]

2018-01-17 04:53:58 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

we 100% should be upping our game

2018-01-17 04:54:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah, we have our work cut out for us

2018-01-17 04:55:03 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I get it, it's dire

2018-01-17 04:56:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

we definitely should be having more boots on the ground grassroots campaigns

2018-01-17 04:56:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there is no chance of making it by going on high and dry

2018-01-17 04:58:17 UTC [Red Storm #wisconsin]  

I'm not psychic

2018-01-17 05:00:30 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there has to be some political event from now and then which changes the circumstances, really.

2018-01-17 05:00:50 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I refuse to give up hope, sorry.

2018-01-17 05:03:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

GOP turnout is down, dem turnout is up, that's a big part.

2018-01-17 05:03:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

There's gotta be a way to re-galvanize support

2018-01-17 05:06:30 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Not sure how Trump and the RNC are spending their political capital, whether they're saving it for the midterm day itself or something, but there should 100% be a plan under wraps for them.

2018-01-17 05:07:07 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

One thing I know, money doesn't win elections on its own.

2018-01-17 05:08:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

If only the government was capable of anything competent

2018-01-17 05:08:42 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

There absolutely should be a strategy for at least Trump

2018-01-17 05:09:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I just don't think he's doing nothing about this

2018-01-17 05:09:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'm just not sure what it is if he does

2018-01-17 05:10:53 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I tell you what, I'd be panicked if we had the midterms tomorrow with this type of political environment.

2018-01-17 05:11:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

This is extremely concerning

2018-01-17 05:11:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Something's gotta change in the environment, that's the thing

2018-01-17 05:12:34 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Yeah, there's just gotta be a way

2018-01-17 05:13:38 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Politics is a changing course, it doesn't stay the same, I'm just not sure this momentum could be kept up.

2018-01-17 05:14:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

It should be changed, I tell you, if I were Trump, I'd have justice as a main focus, I'll be honest, if there's any way to salvage this season, it's going to be through high profile arrests.

2018-01-17 05:14:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

That's what energizes people.

2018-01-17 05:15:22 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'd be down campaigning for candidates directly, Trump himself is a much more valuable physical political asset than all the money the RNC has.

2018-01-17 05:15:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Not tweets, rallies.

2018-01-17 05:16:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

The last thing that should be on Trump's mind or anyone in the RNC is to remain on this course

2018-01-17 05:16:38 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Not an election day

2018-01-17 05:17:05 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

was it nov. 8 2016 or a random day

2018-01-17 05:18:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

It makes sense

2018-01-17 05:18:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

If you have the ballot sheet down the line when you're voting for president, you'll vote for senators, congressmen, and state legislature

2018-01-17 05:19:09 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

A lot of people aren't thinking politics and voting on some random day in January

2018-01-17 05:19:45 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Clearly less of the Rs are coming out than dems, which is a major issue.

2018-01-17 05:20:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Not sure whether it's demotivation, or energy from the left, or both, but it's an issue.

2018-01-17 05:21:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

We've gotta have some sort of major event happen

2018-01-17 05:22:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Trump better have something major up his sleeve to be able to turn this around, because the issues aren't going to cut it. "the economy" isn't going to be winning the GOP any elections any time soon, sad to say.

2018-01-17 05:24:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

As for the moment, though, doesn't look good.

2018-01-17 05:25:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

a 'trump card' is really what I'm crossing my fingers for, there's gotta be a good plan other than business as usual.

2018-01-17 05:26:02 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Agreed

2018-01-17 05:27:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Let's find a way to change the course somehow, theorize, strategize or whatever, but let's do that later, it's the middle of the night and I'm gonna hit the bed.

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