holunderbaum
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u got it all wrong
it's not flat, nor a globe
why haven't u looked at the 3rd model, the one true undebunkable model
concave, hollow universe
the stars rotate different ways at either hemisphere
is 100% undeniable proof that it's not flat
it's the celestial sphere rotating at the center
you also can't have a flat torus field
i can debunk the globe model 1000 times in 5 minutes and can debunk the flat model easily
you cannot debunk concave model, the gatekeeping and psychological warfare of it is so extreme
with their cia garbage
it curves upwards but you don't see that when looking out because of negative refraction, i woul need to show photos
lighting conditions changes how you see it, sometimes you can see way way too far and sometimes it appears to be disappearing over the horizon, even looking at the same place from the same spot
flat earthers are half way there, 50% the way then you need to take the final leap, i am a targeted individual of gangstalking
from conspiracy knowledge, they have sabotaged every part of my life now
we live inside a hollow EM engine, a folding hypertorus
matter exists due to the flow of the aether, interlaced hypertorus at the core
it's manifest due to armonic suspension of electrodynamic 'packets' of electrical charge this manifest 'subatomic' so called 'particles', Particles are the same as light they flip flop in and out of existance (many call this the simulation theory) existance of anything is harmonic coherence of charge states
as space is folded out from the core it is thus also counterspatially collapsing back into the core...ergo reciprocating. Without flow there is no 'energy'. Black holes if they exist are simply electromagnetic counterspatial voidances due to high electromagnetic spatial compression. Gravity is nothing more than both spatial exspansion and counterspatial contraction in unison (ether push) easier understood as dielectric repulsion & attraction
you are being pushed to the ground by centripetal sink force ether
and if you get high up enough you will be pushed to the fimament by centrifugal lift force, this is how things lock into orbit
once you get high enough to reach the equilibrium point anything can lock magnetically into orbit, meaning they do have a few real satelites
nobody is in the satelites, they're locked into orbit and used for surveillance, the highest form of witchcraft
the core is a hyperfolded exspansion from non euclidean counterspace, alignment of none harmonised counterspace then manifests in harmonic space and takes mathmetically the simplest shape it can for its form - a sphere ergo the earth is a ball and the universe held within us is a hypertorus
we live INSIDE the universe, heaven is in the earth as it says in the bible, flat earth is a massive CIA psyop so that your anatomy cannot truly comprehend heaven above you as the flat model does not work
the sun is an electromagnetic capacitance discharge welders torch, the celestial firmament allows discharge with capacitators
all energy comes from the octahedron at the center, you can prove that a pyramid creates a spherical energy field which is why orgonite works
when god said "let there be light" he put the octahedron in place, which is the tree of life
everything is spherical, a hypersphere explains all potential shapes for the universe because all are one in the same...it depends how you choose to measure something that you cannot measure because all the tools of man are electromagnetic yes this includes telescopes...when measuring and working out where stars are Reimman curvature tensors and other algorythms need to be applied
are you a flat earther? you cannot debunk this model, eric dubay and other luciferian flat earthers cannot debunk it either
you can refute it with me for hours and i'll debunk your model over and over and i can assure you you won't debunk concave
the proof is that you cannot debunk it
let me ask you a question
have you looked into concave earth at all?
the answer is no, so why are you saying it's fiction if you've never researched it?
and what did you think of it? why is it wrong and why is it fiction and definitely not concave?
there's no proof of flat, you can debunk flat very simply
it curves upwards, negative refration changes the way we see it
light bending through the spherical firmament
it requires research for you to figure it out, immediate evidence doesn't exist you are lying to yourself
as i said, you're half way there, you know it's not a globe
answer me then, why when standing in either hemisphere do the star trails rotate two opposite ways?
there are two hemispheres of both the earth and the celestial sphere
no flat earther can ever answer it, also laser experiments when you take a 3rd point at the center of the laser show concavity
on the globe, water would always fall to its level because the gravitational point is at the center, it's impossible
but on the concave model the gravitational point is working as a suction on the outer side of the spherical universe
it has nowhere else to go, it is being sucked up by magnetism
ether sink force
water can indeed bend using magnets
it's not shi.t, i'm showing you the true model
all i'm saying is, research it
spend a lot of time, try to debunk it
clearly you didn't debunk it
stop saying "evidence", the only evidence takes many many hours of research
but there's evidence that there are two hemispheres
with star trails
also the firmament dome you speak of, at any part of your pancake model the ether sink force is always at the exact same height
all over the earth, you reach 121k feet with a balloon and it won't go higher because you are reaching the equilibrium point
so if it was a dome working like a tent, the furrther you got to the ice wall the less height you'd have to achieve to hit that point
then where does the firmament end? does it just curve down like a tent into the ice somewhere?
you can prove that at every point on the earth with a balloon it's the exact same height
try to find laser experiments proving concavity, they are all heavily attacked by jewtube, and the recilineator experiment
the two many extreme gatekeepers of concave earth both claim to be christ
it's extreme highest end CIA tactics and acting
if you are a seeker of the real truth you will learn this model and that it's the truth
why is there no information on it when you can't debunk it? wheres the concave community? it doesn't exist
because any sign of one being built gets shut down and the community gets gangstalked
the videos have 50 views and their subscribers all get manipulated of any concave video
i have videos downloaded of it that have all been deleted
the concave moel
the reason he is spamming all these links while i'm trying to convince you to research concave earth is because he's indeed possessed by the devil
the demonic realm attacks this model heavily
i don't quite know what you mean
if anyone wants to discuss this with me in pm and i can show images feel free to pm me
this is the truth
these fake jews are nearing their end, not one of the "jews" in israel has any connection whatsoever to the true biblical israelites
neither do these black hebrew israelite frauds
not one of them, they're the khazarian Amalekite mafia, fake jews
it's not antisemitism because they're not semitic at all, non-messianic talmudist satanists
the talmud and the qur'an are the creations of fallen angels
also eric dubay is an openly luciferian re.tard, he has no idea what he's talking about
you have to be a fool to buy his description on how sunsets work and his attempt to debunk concave
and he says "perspective" is the reason star trails rotate opposite ways of either end of the earth
completely insane and mentally re,tarded to the core
flat earthers are almost there, some of them are lost and will never figure it out but lots of you almost got it, earth certainly does not rotate. mikkelson morley didn't detect any rotation, arie, sagnak experiment with light
satan has inverted the true moel into a spinning ball
and truly the globe model is hilarious only the biggest clowns actually believe it
but the flat model is also wrong
it's not quite as re,tarded as the globe but it's bad
see none have even heard of the true model, that shows how extreme the gatekeeping is to keep it away from u
there's only one living god, the rest are fallen angel babylonian garbage
worshipping them will bring swift destruction as we go into the tribulation
nope they're not gods, they call themselves gods
allah certainly is not god, you're worshipping a fallen angel
that's why life gets much better when you submit to allah
as the muslims say "when you submit to allah, the world submits to you"
and they're right, the reason for that is because the demonic realm then takes pressure off you
it leaves you along, because you've got the wrong god
openly worshipping satan
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