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2019-01-17 01:59:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-09-02 11:47:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

u got it all wrong

2019-09-02 11:47:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's not flat, nor a globe

2019-09-02 11:47:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why haven't u looked at the 3rd model, the one true undebunkable model

2019-09-02 11:47:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

concave, hollow universe

2019-09-02 11:48:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the stars rotate different ways at either hemisphere

2019-09-02 11:48:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

is 100% undeniable proof that it's not flat

2019-09-02 11:48:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's the celestial sphere rotating at the center

2019-09-02 11:48:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you also can't have a flat torus field

2019-09-02 11:49:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i can debunk the globe model 1000 times in 5 minutes and can debunk the flat model easily

2019-09-02 11:49:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you cannot debunk concave model, the gatekeeping and psychological warfare of it is so extreme

2019-09-02 11:49:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

with their cia garbage

2019-09-02 11:49:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it curves upwards but you don't see that when looking out because of negative refraction, i woul need to show photos

2019-09-02 11:50:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

lighting conditions changes how you see it, sometimes you can see way way too far and sometimes it appears to be disappearing over the horizon, even looking at the same place from the same spot

2019-09-02 11:51:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

flat earthers are half way there, 50% the way then you need to take the final leap, i am a targeted individual of gangstalking

2019-09-02 11:51:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

from conspiracy knowledge, they have sabotaged every part of my life now

2019-09-02 11:51:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

we live inside a hollow EM engine, a folding hypertorus

2019-09-02 11:51:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

matter exists due to the flow of the aether, interlaced hypertorus at the core

2019-09-02 11:52:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's manifest due to armonic suspension of electrodynamic 'packets' of electrical charge this manifest 'subatomic' so called 'particles', Particles are the same as light they flip flop in and out of existance (many call this the simulation theory) existance of anything is harmonic coherence of charge states

2019-09-02 11:53:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

as space is folded out from the core it is thus also counterspatially collapsing back into the core...ergo reciprocating. Without flow there is no 'energy'. Black holes if they exist are simply electromagnetic counterspatial voidances due to high electromagnetic spatial compression. Gravity is nothing more than both spatial exspansion and counterspatial contraction in unison (ether push) easier understood as dielectric repulsion & attraction

2019-09-02 11:53:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you are being pushed to the ground by centripetal sink force ether

2019-09-02 11:54:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and if you get high up enough you will be pushed to the fimament by centrifugal lift force, this is how things lock into orbit

2019-09-02 11:54:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

once you get high enough to reach the equilibrium point anything can lock magnetically into orbit, meaning they do have a few real satelites

2019-09-02 11:55:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

nobody is in the satelites, they're locked into orbit and used for surveillance, the highest form of witchcraft

2019-09-02 11:56:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the core is a hyperfolded exspansion from non euclidean counterspace, alignment of none harmonised counterspace then manifests in harmonic space and takes mathmetically the simplest shape it can for its form - a sphere ergo the earth is a ball and the universe held within us is a hypertorus

2019-09-02 11:57:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

we live INSIDE the universe, heaven is in the earth as it says in the bible, flat earth is a massive CIA psyop so that your anatomy cannot truly comprehend heaven above you as the flat model does not work

2019-09-02 11:58:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the sun is an electromagnetic capacitance discharge welders torch, the celestial firmament allows discharge with capacitators

2019-09-02 11:59:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

all energy comes from the octahedron at the center, you can prove that a pyramid creates a spherical energy field which is why orgonite works

2019-09-02 11:59:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

when god said "let there be light" he put the octahedron in place, which is the tree of life

2019-09-02 12:01:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

everything is spherical, a hypersphere explains all potential shapes for the universe because all are one in the same...it depends how you choose to measure something that you cannot measure because all the tools of man are electromagnetic yes this includes telescopes...when measuring and working out where stars are Reimman curvature tensors and other algorythms need to be applied

2019-09-02 12:02:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

are you a flat earther? you cannot debunk this model, eric dubay and other luciferian flat earthers cannot debunk it either

2019-09-02 12:03:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you can refute it with me for hours and i'll debunk your model over and over and i can assure you you won't debunk concave

2019-09-02 12:03:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the proof is that you cannot debunk it

2019-09-02 12:03:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

let me ask you a question

2019-09-02 12:03:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

have you looked into concave earth at all?

2019-09-02 12:03:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the answer is no, so why are you saying it's fiction if you've never researched it?

2019-09-02 12:04:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and what did you think of it? why is it wrong and why is it fiction and definitely not concave?

2019-09-02 12:04:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

there's no proof of flat, you can debunk flat very simply

2019-09-02 12:04:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it curves upwards, negative refration changes the way we see it

2019-09-02 12:05:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

light bending through the spherical firmament

2019-09-02 12:05:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it requires research for you to figure it out, immediate evidence doesn't exist you are lying to yourself

2019-09-02 12:05:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

as i said, you're half way there, you know it's not a globe

2019-09-02 12:06:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

answer me then, why when standing in either hemisphere do the star trails rotate two opposite ways?

2019-09-02 12:06:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

there are two hemispheres of both the earth and the celestial sphere

2019-09-02 12:06:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

no flat earther can ever answer it, also laser experiments when you take a 3rd point at the center of the laser show concavity

2019-09-02 12:07:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

on the globe, water would always fall to its level because the gravitational point is at the center, it's impossible

2019-09-02 12:07:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

but on the concave model the gravitational point is working as a suction on the outer side of the spherical universe

2019-09-02 12:07:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it has nowhere else to go, it is being sucked up by magnetism

2019-09-02 12:07:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

ether sink force

2019-09-02 12:07:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

water can indeed bend using magnets

2019-09-02 12:08:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's not shi.t, i'm showing you the true model

2019-09-02 12:08:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

all i'm saying is, research it

2019-09-02 12:08:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

spend a lot of time, try to debunk it

2019-09-02 12:08:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

clearly you didn't debunk it

2019-09-02 12:09:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

stop saying "evidence", the only evidence takes many many hours of research

2019-09-02 12:09:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

but there's evidence that there are two hemispheres

2019-09-02 12:09:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

with star trails

2019-09-02 12:09:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

also the firmament dome you speak of, at any part of your pancake model the ether sink force is always at the exact same height

2019-09-02 12:10:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

all over the earth, you reach 121k feet with a balloon and it won't go higher because you are reaching the equilibrium point

2019-09-02 12:10:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so if it was a dome working like a tent, the furrther you got to the ice wall the less height you'd have to achieve to hit that point

2019-09-02 12:10:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

then where does the firmament end? does it just curve down like a tent into the ice somewhere?

2019-09-02 12:10:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you can prove that at every point on the earth with a balloon it's the exact same height

2019-09-02 12:11:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

try to find laser experiments proving concavity, they are all heavily attacked by jewtube, and the recilineator experiment

2019-09-02 12:11:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the two many extreme gatekeepers of concave earth both claim to be christ

2019-09-02 12:11:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's extreme highest end CIA tactics and acting

2019-09-02 12:12:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

if you are a seeker of the real truth you will learn this model and that it's the truth

2019-09-02 12:12:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why is there no information on it when you can't debunk it? wheres the concave community? it doesn't exist

2019-09-02 12:12:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

because any sign of one being built gets shut down and the community gets gangstalked

2019-09-02 12:13:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the videos have 50 views and their subscribers all get manipulated of any concave video

2019-09-02 12:13:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i have videos downloaded of it that have all been deleted

2019-09-02 12:13:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the concave moel

2019-09-02 12:14:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the reason he is spamming all these links while i'm trying to convince you to research concave earth is because he's indeed possessed by the devil

2019-09-02 12:14:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the demonic realm attacks this model heavily

2019-09-02 12:15:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i don't quite know what you mean

2019-09-02 12:15:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

if anyone wants to discuss this with me in pm and i can show images feel free to pm me

2019-09-02 12:15:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

this is the truth

2019-09-02 12:16:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

these fake jews are nearing their end, not one of the "jews" in israel has any connection whatsoever to the true biblical israelites

2019-09-02 12:16:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

neither do these black hebrew israelite frauds

2019-09-02 12:16:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

not one of them, they're the khazarian Amalekite mafia, fake jews

2019-09-02 12:17:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's not antisemitism because they're not semitic at all, non-messianic talmudist satanists

2019-09-02 12:17:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the talmud and the qur'an are the creations of fallen angels

2019-09-02 12:18:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

also eric dubay is an openly luciferian re.tard, he has no idea what he's talking about

2019-09-02 12:19:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you have to be a fool to buy his description on how sunsets work and his attempt to debunk concave

2019-09-02 12:19:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and he says "perspective" is the reason star trails rotate opposite ways of either end of the earth

2019-09-02 12:19:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

completely insane and mentally re,tarded to the core

2019-09-02 12:22:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

flat earthers are almost there, some of them are lost and will never figure it out but lots of you almost got it, earth certainly does not rotate. mikkelson morley didn't detect any rotation, arie, sagnak experiment with light

2019-09-02 12:22:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

satan has inverted the true moel into a spinning ball

2019-09-02 12:22:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and truly the globe model is hilarious only the biggest clowns actually believe it

2019-09-02 12:22:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

but the flat model is also wrong

2019-09-02 12:22:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it's not quite as re,tarded as the globe but it's bad

2019-09-02 12:23:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

see none have even heard of the true model, that shows how extreme the gatekeeping is to keep it away from u

2019-09-02 12:24:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

there's only one living god, the rest are fallen angel babylonian garbage

2019-09-02 12:25:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

worshipping them will bring swift destruction as we go into the tribulation

2019-09-02 12:25:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

nope they're not gods, they call themselves gods

2019-09-02 12:26:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

allah certainly is not god, you're worshipping a fallen angel

2019-09-02 12:26:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

that's why life gets much better when you submit to allah

2019-09-02 12:26:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

as the muslims say "when you submit to allah, the world submits to you"

2019-09-02 12:26:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and they're right, the reason for that is because the demonic realm then takes pressure off you

2019-09-02 12:26:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it leaves you along, because you've got the wrong god

2019-09-02 12:26:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

openly worshipping satan

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