Seasons work well on a globe with the angle of incidence behavior of radiation heat transfer

It's simple heat flux

Why not

We have the tilt of the earths axis to consider

That top image shows the incidence only during teh summer solstice

find one at the winter solstice

Wait one thing at a time

That's only at one point during the year

find an equivalent image at the equinox

We're not talking about that, we're talking about if the model makes sense

You equally can't prove the lower image

Well that's a diff conversation

but right now the model makes sense with the seasons

You can't prove the lower image

I can say the same for the top one

Empiracal isn't proof

That's assuming

You don't observe the lower one, show me a picture of that from up high

You don't understand the heliocentric model if you say seasons dont' make sense

Here this image is better than the one you posted

https://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/seasons.png?1

We also empiraclly observe the 24 hr sun in antarctica

They are empiracal as much as what you just posted is

If you dismiss mine you have to dismiss yours

I can't?

Why not I've been down below the antarctic circle

Yes

Doubt

Oh ok

not verify myself?

just look into it?

shoudl I look into the seasons too?

Ok I did, i foudn this : https://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/seasons.png?1

Empirical

Why do they not make sense

Makes perfect sense on a globe, matches what we see teh sun doing, flat eaerth does not

Yep

and the temp swing between winter and summer is diff in Australia

Empirical

The temperature swing (difference) between winter and summer is higher in Australia, b/c their summer occurs when they're closer to the Sun

I can't, but I can show you one that cools down as it gets closer AND as the angle of the incident radiation gets greater

"Summer in Australia happens when the sun gets further away" that's 100% wrong

Ok

Here I'll be right back

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~smita/Ast1143/Lecture4-Seasons.pdf

Sun is closest in January, which is summer for Australia

WTF ?

What time of year do you think Australia has summer?

Which is it

You just said two contradictory things

You just said they have summer at the same time

Sun further when Australia has summer

North America further when america has summer

Opposite of the north

You just said they have summer at the same time, when furthest from the sun

"Sun further when Australia has summer
North America further when america has summer"

Ok here in that link you sent

What time of year is perihelion

I'll answer for you, it's January

What time of year is aphelion?

Yes, slightly a small percentage, but you also said the same thing about australia a second ago, so now you need to clarify

100% wrong

how did you get there

winter in US and summer in australia occur at the same time of year, January

which happens to be perihelion

Yes, and what time of year is summer in australia, match that to what you just said

Right

more or less

no, winter occurs in North America , coincidentally near Perihelion

If you wanna know how heat transfer works try this free textbook : http://web.mit.edu/lienhard/www/ahttv212.pdf

^well that's refreshing,

Intellecual honesty

Well if you want to know how radiation heat transfer works, to make that claim, try reading that textbook

and the difference between perihilion and aphelion is tiny too

How do flat earthers explain the horizon dropping with altitude below eye level?

ok then a new term, i'll use

what is that

With that effect, the horizon would always appear horizontal, but it does not

what his angular resolution

ok i believe you there is a minimum size object we can discern, due to our eyes

Hawks have better resolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8T9mVkGh3s&feature=youtu.be&t=222

@Citizen Z Why is NGT suddenly trustworthy in this one instant, but every other time he talks he's a shill?

Is it because you happen to agree with him in this one case?

I dunno if what he's saying is accurate every time he speaks

But it is curious you suddenly trust someone that you furiously distrust

So when he talks abotu the earth being a sphere, is he right?

So when eh says you can't see curvature from 120,000 feet, do you agree?

How do you determine which things he says are true or not

Did you verify what he says?

Discernment is not proper science. Not accurate

Lets try math, which is precise : http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Curvature+App%3A+Simulation+of+Globe-Earth+and+Flat-Earth

I don't understand how you can "discern" that soemone is saying something accurate

By that logic I can discern that you are wrong about the shape of the earth, therefore you are wrong

That link shows you what you'd see from that altitude

Don't see what

How much curve should we see

How would you quantify that

I have yet to see a flat earth group put out an app that does anything useful or accurate