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2019-12-20 15:20:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The only difference is that you need to stay up with the economic game.

2019-12-20 15:21:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Punishment is the best motivator.

2019-12-20 15:21:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And if we have more people in the fields where they make robotic parts we can be a step closer to having robots doing the small jobs like fast food and supermarkets.

2019-12-20 15:22:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Mhm.

2019-12-20 15:22:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You're right about that though, a reward system could be put in place to help people.

2019-12-20 15:23:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I said killing is an extreme.

2019-12-20 15:23:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That shouldn't ever be the first idea or second or even third idea.

2019-12-20 15:23:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Possiblity.

2019-12-20 15:23:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I couldn't find anything in my research for this idea that made them useful though.

2019-12-20 15:24:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The idea of my "utopia" is supposed to fuel progress and discourge uselessness.

2019-12-20 15:25:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You're right.

2019-12-20 15:25:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But still you would have to put a lot of medicine towards that and other factors like caretakers into it.

2019-12-20 15:26:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Most disabled people can take care of themselves thankfully though.

2019-12-20 15:26:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Just those who can't walk or aren't mentally sound can't.

2019-12-20 15:26:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You're correct once again.

2019-12-20 15:32:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

In the beginning of such a process that I've put out would be hard to do.

2019-12-20 15:32:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Brutal would be the nicest way of putting it.

2019-12-20 15:33:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There are way more fearful people who get used to the new system though, others would protest or even take up arms. That kind of thing can be squished with the current people who we have to enforce.

2019-12-20 15:33:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm specifically talking about America about this process because it would work the best there than anywhere else.

2019-12-20 19:07:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

"The protest or the systematic eugenicide?"

What would be the problem with the system exactly? The protesting is bound to happen even over the smallest change to a country. We've seen it all this year with a bunch of different countries having protest over policy change or new laws being introduced. The protesting in America wouldn't work against the system because it is an either deal with it or leave situation.

Doing something like "systematic eugenicide" could leave a positive effect on our society. The brightest and normal being allowed to live on while taking care of any defected people. This could also give us some advantage in more gene related research so one could try and correct any ruined genes with "gene editing"/DNA reconstruction.

In my eyes, it is a win win situation.
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@RadRhys

2020-02-26 19:00:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The government lies about a lot of stuff.

2020-02-26 19:00:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I do think it's the earth shape to a certain extent but the earth isn't flat.

2020-02-26 19:00:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

It's concave.

2020-02-26 19:02:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Hesus lol.

2020-02-26 19:02:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Of course they lie.

2020-02-26 19:02:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

You can still rely on them for some things.

2020-02-26 19:03:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Distrusting all resources from someone because they lie a lot isn't the best thing to do.

2020-02-26 19:04:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Not what I was getting at.

2020-02-26 19:04:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

A lot of the governments are lying right now to their populations.

2020-02-26 19:04:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I'd argue all but you know how wording is.

2020-02-26 19:05:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Garfield, does the government always tell people when there is a way to help humanity? @Stickman

2020-02-26 19:06:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Why do you think that's the case?

2020-02-26 19:06:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The government isn't your friend, Garfield.

2020-02-26 19:07:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

What does that have to do with anything?

2020-02-26 19:07:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

They care about themselves.

2020-02-26 19:07:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

^^

2020-02-26 19:08:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Public school is a good example.

2020-02-26 19:10:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

@Stickman The government doesn't require classes that actually help people in the real world as you get older. You never learn about taxes, or rent, or anything like that when growing up. School is made to make workers, 9 to 5 workers. You aren't supposed to be rich, which is why you aren't, but stay in the lower class so they have people to wash the elite's cars, and make their food and clean up their houses.

2020-02-26 19:11:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

A poopy public one.

2020-02-26 19:11:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

No.

2020-02-26 19:11:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

European school.

2020-02-26 19:13:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

The modern pressure of society is to get out of high school then go to college and build up a debt then work for 10 - 30 years just to try and pay it off while also paying for life essentials.

2020-02-26 19:13:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I'm talking America wise.

2020-02-26 19:14:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Since a lot more people here are American.

2020-02-26 19:14:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

America needs a lot more fixing than that.

2020-02-26 19:14:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Every country has it's flaws.

2020-02-26 19:15:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Many built on the same idea to keep workers in the work force and in the lowerclass.

2020-02-26 19:16:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

So most people?

2020-02-26 19:17:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Most people are small IQ according to you then.

2020-02-26 19:18:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It wouldn't matter the country when you say stuff like that because it isn't possible to just buy two cars.

2020-02-26 19:18:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It takes time.

2020-02-26 19:18:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And a lot of money.

2020-02-26 19:19:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I don't call it slavery personally.

2020-02-26 19:19:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Just brainwashed nations.

2020-02-26 19:19:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How old are you?

2020-02-26 19:19:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You don't seem to understand that you can't just walk into a company and get the highest paying job.

2020-02-26 19:20:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Many of them require college degrees.

2020-02-26 19:21:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That's not slavery.

2020-02-26 19:22:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What do you mean by "Luckily for me I live in the Netherlands"?

2020-02-26 19:22:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You still need to a doctor's degree in Netherlands.

2020-02-26 19:22:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That is still 3 - 6 years of school.

2020-02-26 19:22:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Before becoming a doctor and having a good job.

2020-02-26 19:23:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

During that time, what are you going to do?

2020-02-26 19:23:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What about working?

2020-02-26 19:23:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Working during college.

2020-02-26 19:24:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You can't eat nothing.

2020-02-26 19:24:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Unless they provide you food as well.

2020-02-26 19:25:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So you are going to rely on your parents for 3 - 6 years?

2020-02-26 19:25:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That isn't real independent of you.

2020-02-26 19:26:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That's another subject for another day.

2020-02-26 19:29:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Of course.

2020-02-26 19:29:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I have to go now.

2020-02-26 19:30:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Thank you both for discussing this with me.

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