they were committed by the US purely to stop leftist groups rising to power

basic rule for the list: without capitalist policy these deaths would not have occured

yeah its mainly a response to that claim that "socialism killed millions"

in reality both have killed millions

socialism slightly less

using deaths as a metric proves capitalism is the less successful one

the soviets were doing fine until they went capitalist

Living standards fell

Poverty increased

the GDP collapsed

Economy in general collapsed

suicide rates and alcoholism went through the roof

the only famines included are ones related to capitalism

Ireland due to the British policy increasing bread prices to make more money and refusing help

Bengal because the British demanded all food grown went to them

so the people starved

again, to make a profit

same at orissa

I think those are the only famines there

colonization was mainly done to make more profit

access to new markets, new goods

more profit

there may have been other reasons depending on the strategic area but the core reason for colonialism was to make more profit

even India was ruled by a business...

Empires were built to obtain cheap labour and raw materials for mercantile capitalism. It wasn’t the kind of globalized, “free-market” capitalism we practice today — but it was very much self-interested, profit-maximizing, shareholder-capitalized companies engaged in commerce, just under different rules about who could trade what, where, how, and when. The means of production were very much operated privately for profit - a key aspect of capitalism.

- some havard economist cant remember their name

no wait professor wolfe I think

Wolff?

Some wolf thing

Just search up professor wolff and he'll show up.

It was ruled by the British East India Company

the primary reason for colonisation was profit

not true

diamond mines, slaves

gold

petrol

There's a reason Africa was colonised last, it wasn't as profitable

diamonds, gold, other resources

Petrol later on

more in the 20th century

exactly why Africa was colonised last, not as profitable

not until late 19th century

1870 I think

where you could make more money, you can bet there were colonists

throughout East Asia for spice, the gold in South America

European powers used Africa to gain slaves

it was an important part of the Atlantic slave trade

slaves from Africa to America, the goods from America to Europe

slavery was still unofficially going on in a lot of colonies

India, China, North America, Carribbean, South America were all profitable.

now look who was colonised first.

1600s-1700s was the golden age of colonization

well yes, it's the same argument anti communists use

I think claiming a system killed 100 million people on no clear evidence is a little unfair

which is common

It was 60 million, the commonly accepted number

its important to note here all the numbers used are the bare minimum

conservative death tolls

5000 deaths for the brunei revolution is very generous

socialism has existed since the early 1800s

the earliest my chart goes is late 1600s as far as I know

that gives it 100 year headstart?

I don't see a huge gap here

Yes socialism has existed since 1830 at the earliest as far as I know. although socialist societies existed since the 1100s.

they just didnt know what socialism was

they followed it

no, that's only one form of socialism though

groups have used some socialist forms since the beginning of history

yes, if the word socialism wasn't really defined until the 1800s

societies did use socialism for thousands of years tho

countries did adopt it, there were countries using socialism throughout africa and even north america

they just didn't know they were using socialism

native tribe structures were the same as forms of socialism

in the midwest US particularly

You claimed no country adopted it

So I gave you examples otherwise

a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

Wrong.

You asked for an example so I provided one

simple as that

So what you're saying is capitalism had a 100 year head start to kill people

Therefore its unfair

the chart starts mid 1700 at the earliest as far as I know

a few is three

doesn’t change the fact capitalism killed a minimum of 150 million people

You can sugarcoat it all you want