So I am a hardcore conspiracy theorist. Lifelong. Spent my whole life researching every conspiracy theory. 911 truth, fluoride in the water, ruling bloodlines, annunaki, nephilim, reptilians, simulation theory, pizzagate you name it. Got balls deep into flat earth. Studied it a lot and watched lots of good YouTube videos. There are a lot of interesting, thought provoking and often convincing points and arguments and anomalies. I learned a lot about how so much nasa stuff is fake. Fake moon landing photos and videos. Fake moon rocks. Fake Mars rover images. Even proof that at least some space station footage is fake. I really question how the earth's atmosphere can survive in the vacuum of space without being sucked away if there isn't a barrier or firmament of some kind. But ultimately I concluded the earth is not flat but a sphere and Space and other planets are real. It's confused by all the hoaxing and fakery. But the balance of evidence points to the sphere earth.

On the recent flat earth documentary on Netflix the flat earth researchers devised experiments themselves and proved the earth was a sphere even though they wanted to prove the opposite they proved 2 different ways that the earth is a sphere

I can't explain how the stars circle the north star and the stars don't change with the movement of the planet through space, or why super long bridges are supposedly built without factoring the curve

I think the bigger mystery is not the earth being flat but the moon mysteries

Aka it's hollow, artificial, has impossible qualities like its size and position to block the sun in eclipse, never shows its other side to us, covered in anomalous structures, moving objects, craft, artificial structures etc.

@dereknelson - so someone who studies and believes in every single conspiracy theory but doesn't believe in flat earth is a troll? In other words the world is 99% trolls and 1% flat earthers

But yeah on that flat earth documentary they bought some kind of 10k super gyroscope to prove the earth was flat and it proved the earth was a sphere

Then they did an experiment with boards and lasers to show the earth was flat but instead the lazer was not visible through the hole because of the earth's curvature

I don't quite follow that meme

It's a good question

I don't quite understand why we cant see clear photo evidence of a curve

On the flip side this satellite seems to be legit and takes full earth photos from space

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/10/science/An-Image-of-Earth-Every-Ten-Minutes.html

Why do you think the japanese satellite isn't real? The imagery is too detailed and realistic to be cgi and constantly updated

But how does an antenna on a building generate whole earth images from above?

I agree the satellite temperature thing is confusing

That seems doubtful...dont think planes could go High or fast enough to get whole earth images every ten minutes

To be clear I actually bought into flat earth for a while

Tried to show documentaries and stuff to friends and family. I even did the flat earth side of a debate podcast on the subject

But if they aren't they must be using like a quantum computer ai to constantly generate endless changing weather patterns etc

Yeah it would be hard

It's one thing to generate a fake image but a constantly updating global image?

That's like making a movie that never ends

In real time

So I'm told

So your saying the moon missions are impossible

Because the ships couldn't survive vacuum

I'm with you on the moon landings

The whole thing is absurd on many levels

You can prove photos and videos from the moon missions false beyond a doubt

You would think it would be easy to prove

So what about the moon shadow argument?

So what's the problem there?

With the shadow?

Hmmm

Interesting

OK so what about the fact that they see different constellations in the southern hemisphere

That's the one I can't explain on a flat earth

Should be able to see all the stars from anywhere with a telescope

I don't quite follow that... Might explain why we can't see infinitely far across the surface of the flat earth but the stars being overhead you should be able to see other constellations I would think

Because your talking about such vast distances anyways to the stars

Although I guess flat earth model stars are closer

I have seen many examples put forward of land masses or buildings that shouldn't be visible because of the curve but can be fully seen

That's one that makes me question for sure

http://www.smarterthanthat.com/astronomy/top-10-ways-to-know-the-earth-is-not-flat/

You don't have to read that but that's what I'm looking at

The other one raised is time zones

Supposedly can only work on a ball

Not recently

And they are like battery powered or something right?

Scoundrels

So I agree that there are an awful lot of anomalies and strange things

So what was the one thing that flipped you to truly believe flat earth?

What would you say is the top proof of flat earth

The most powerful evidence

I watched that documentary flat earth clues / under the dome and it got me thinking for sure

But I've seen experiments carried out that disproved flat earth

Done by flat earth people

So I think it's jeranism

And he sets up a series of wooden poles of equal height at distances and each pole has a hole at the same spot. Then they shine a lazer through the hole. On flat earth the lazer should go through all the holes and be visible. But when they did it you couldn't see the lazer. It was below the hole because of the curvature

That was what they said basically

But you are right it makes no sense how you could have a noticeable curve effect at that small a scale but no visible curve in that picture

OK so grant that the earth is flat

Haha thanks. I appreciate you discussing with me. I just want to know the truth. So do you believe that space is as described? Do you believe in distant stars and planets?

OK so you don't believe in all the other planets?

OK but the saturn one there you seem to be able to see a sphere with rings around it. Can't be a star

Why not a planet?

So sun and moon are inside the firmament?

We went through some of the evidence

Mostly you can't see any curvature even at great height it appears flat

But how can you say the moon is a light? I mean it appears to emit light but it's clearly also a Rocky structure wirh craters and stuff

You can see those with the naked eye

@Derek Nelson the reason I can almost believe in a firmament is that it explains how the atmosphere of earth can exist beside the vacuum of space

And could also explain why no one had been able to go beyond low earth orbit

So Derek Nelson do you believe the moon is a solid body or just a light?

My understanding is the reason for the cover up is too hide the existence of God

They don't want you to know the earth is designed by a creator. Even though that is obvious even on a sphere

Just DNA proves the intelligent designer

No heaven is above the firmament

But the firmament must go all the way down to the ground

Sorry I meant to say no, heaven is above the firmament

I believe there is a vast space beneath the earth

Inner earth beings and civilizations and oceans and such all below the ground

The documentary the principle says they proved the universe revolves around the earth

I haven't seen it but apparently it's science

There could be another world on the bottom side of the flat earth

Like a coin

Hell / sheol/ gehenna / tartarus may be deep within the earth

Maybe

Some say there is an inner sun

Well in the hollow earth model the earth is a hollow sphere with another sun in the core middle and land and oceans etc on the inner surface of the sphere

So they have their own sun in there

But that's a different model

Some people think the earth is an endless flat plane of ice with little puddles melted out all around by small local suns that melt little pools in the ice where islands and continents are

I'm trying to share images but they don't post :(

Honestly though this stuff is mind blowing

Mind blowing!

And have you guys seem that one where they show how not only is the earth flat from space but also has a local hot spot on the clouds beneath it?

Truly doesn't seem to make sense if it's so far away