Are there no limits on the kind of language that can be used on this server?

@Creampie if you don't mind would you describe for me what the primary source for your moral compass is in Christianity?

I don't lift ... so I lack tickets to the guns how...

Thank you for the response but could I ask a few followups?

Do you consider the entire bible to be a source of ethics or only certain parts and if only certain parts what method do you use to determine those parts. Or is it more nuanced in that it's all a source of ethics but some sections require a proper lens or perspective?

I like being nice. I want to know what other's think and why.

How does one know the disposition of God? From only the bible or can one discern the mind of god purely with ones "intellect" granted by God or am I missing some other path to the mind of God which you would consider valid?

On individuals interpretation of the bible can two contradictory interpretations be true or can it be said there is a correct interpretation and if so how is that determined?

Interesting, most Christian theologians I've spoken to don't limit the path to knowing the mind of God to the bible and comprehension of it. Many either either via human intelligence or the holy spirit the mind of God can be made manifest due to God's nature. May I ask which specific form of Christianity you participate in or most reflects your core ideals?

Dispensationalist, I don't think I've ever run one into one of you before. Granted my discussions with Christian theologians have mostly been in meat space instead of the internet and thus may have a extreme bias due to geography.

Do you mind if I ask your positions on a few topics? It's been a moment since I discussed the meaning of bible passages.

I don't want an argument or anything hostile. I prefer to have more chill discussions. Far too often in the past I participated in arguments that escalated to anger and screaming that simply wasn't productive for either person involved. That is not to say that I don't have strong convictions on certain matters, just that I would prefer the worst case for a discussion to be a parting of ways where only both individuals have a better understanding of the other's mindset.

I would like to know what your position on Homosexuality and morality. Under John Paul the II the Catholic church took a position of acting upon homosexuality being sinful but accepted people were born as such. Pope Francis for a while was very quiet on the subject but recently spoke in support of civil unions. In my view the the Roman Catholic church's position is similar to their historical views on interracial marriage. That given enough time they would revise their stance on Homosexual acts being sinful. Do you agree with the church's changing attitude in concerns to the morality of Homosexuality?

Oh hai Jess n_n @Lovely Jess

I apologize if my introduction of the subject painted you as a Roman Catholic or any highly organized denomination. I simply find the position of the papacy to be a good starting point for the subject.

I also consider your self perceived sexual immorality to be immaterial to the mater.

Though I would normally start with Jesus for a topic like this it is probably best to look at the passages. As I suspect you don't place as much important on the teaching of Jesus superseding much of the bible as many Roman Catholics.

Corinthians 9 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

I assume this is the particular passage you're referring to. Per https://tms.edu/m/tmsj3h.pdf the original text used the term "arsenokoitai" which has been often mistranslated as homosexual. Within the full historical context the term arsenokoitai refers to a particular type of male prostitute whom cross dressed and provided sexual favors to glorify a false god. I would submit it is very likely the act which is considered unethical in the passage isn't even sexual impurity but instead sexual impurity in service of glorify a false god. What is your take on that?

Then may I consider your position to be homosexuality is only wrong because it is done outside of a Church sanctioned marriage, or would that be a misrepresentation of your position?

Thank you for the warning, if you would like to continue this discussion another day we can.

I don't want to appear to be blasting the last words but may I make a final remark to act as a starting point for another evening?

Can you give me the specific chapter and verse Bible passages which lead you to the conclusion that is it against the natural order? Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom and appears to from a biological view to serve a function of the natural order. (my spelling and grammar isn't great, I apologize for editing posts and only make changes for fixing errors)

Again I would thank you for sitting down and listening to me. I look forward to continuing our conversation. Have a good night n_n ❤️

It's kay. That'll give me a chance to research the passages and form my response.