gadi ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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2021-01-02 22:03:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

GOP Senators Murkowski and Toomey just came out and said they will vote to certify the election.

https://twitter.com/sentoomey/status/1345486488394485760?s=21

2021-01-02 22:03:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

This makes it virtually impossible for the senate to reject electors because every GOP senator is needed in order to toss them

2021-01-03 06:15:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

If pence said that it indicates that he does not plan on interfering

2021-01-03 06:16:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

If pence rejected electors there are no objections from the GOP senators or presentation of evidence during debate

2021-01-03 06:18:37 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Also VP Pence doesnโ€™t actually read the electoral votes as theyโ€™re counted. He opens them and then hands them to tellers from the house and senate who then read them

2021-01-03 06:22:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Hereโ€™s how it works

In yellow is the house parliamentarian who tells the VP what to say in the procedures (example: when someone raises an objection)

In Red are the people who read the electoral votes (the tellers)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/795175262148362270/image0.png

2021-01-03 06:28:40 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Oh also I forgot to mention the tellers are bipartisan so 2 democrats will be reading the electoral votes after pence hands it to them along with 2 republicans

2021-01-03 06:34:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

A lot of people are convinced that January 6th will end with Trump being re-elected but itโ€™s because they think Pence is the reader of electoral votes. They are being lied too, itโ€™s sad.

2021-01-03 06:37:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Hereโ€™s how 1/6 works for those who donโ€™t know.

In yellow: the house parliamentarian (they advise the VP on what to say) pence will need one because this is his first time

In Red: the House tellers, *They* read the electoral votes after Pence hands it to them. This group is bipartisan with 2 Dems and 2 GOP reading them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772982351520333824/795179109851332608/image0.png

2021-01-03 08:05:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I think the actual goal of January 6th for team Trump is to use it as a way to โ€œexposeโ€ GOP senators and reps who vote down objections.

No doubt potus wants to primary a bunch of gop senators. January 6th is a useful event that helps him in that regard

2021-01-03 08:11:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

I think at some point Mitch will get the senators to stop objecting if multiple objection votes fail

2021-01-03 19:40:25 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Some House republicans come out against the effort to object

2021-01-03 19:49:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

NEW: GOP conference chair Liz Cheney comes out against the effort to decertify

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1345814841282486272?s=21

2021-01-03 19:52:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

Update: Senator Roy blunt (R-MO) is against the effort to decertify as well

2021-01-04 03:27:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

BREAKING NEWS: Tom cotton will not vote to reject electors

2021-01-04 06:30:15 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The only difference is the trump to teams goal Is to get the election overturned. When Barbara boxer joined in objecting to Ohioโ€™s electoral votes in 2004 she explicitly said the purpose of her objection was not to overturn the election

2021-01-04 06:30:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

But youโ€™re right in saying it will all work itself out

2021-01-04 06:31:52 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

There was no mechanism to overturn the election that dems pursued. Getting rid of Donald Trump makes Mike pence (the duly elected Vice President) the president

2021-01-04 06:32:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The comparison would fit if it make Hillary Clinton or Tim Kaine the president

2021-01-04 06:32:58 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The American people elected Donald Trump president and Mike pence the VP to replace him if anything happened

2021-01-04 06:33:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

You are right the talk of a coup is over the top

2021-01-04 06:36:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

In my opinion the talk of a coup would only be legitimate if Mike Pence declared Donald Trump re-elected without going through the process of electoral objections. I donโ€™t think one man should decide who the president should be.

(Nor do I think pence will do any of that)

2021-01-04 06:39:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The debate will certainly be interesting to watch even though we know what the outcome of the final house and senate chamber vote is.

2021-01-04 06:49:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The evidence would need to be so damming that it gets democrats to support rejection of electors

2021-01-04 06:50:16 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Is that possible? Yes, but I donโ€™t think even damming evidence would get enough dems to cross over

2021-01-04 06:51:28 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

All of the democrats in seats won by president trump by large margins lost re-election so the current democratic caucus is made up of dems from blue districts

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