Biden has Michigan, Trump has no chance of taking it now.

This entire election rests on Nevada now, which is basically guaranteed to go blue by this point

It looks like Biden's won the election

Probably, but look at the numbers - a recount won't do jack when Trump's and Biden's numbers are tens of thousands of units apart

I'm positive that a recount in Michigan won't change anything.

I'm sure you're right about that, but a recount won't uncover the voter fraud

The fraud is something that needs to be dealt with separately

I love how all of Trump's tweets are being instantly flagged by Twitter for spreading false information

Solid argument Kevin

Prayers aren’t effective lol

I've been searching around and it doesn't seem like there's actually any specific evidence of fraud

It's just speculation based on all the mail votes for Biden

But really, that shouldn't be surprising. Even weeks ago, it was easy to predict that the mail votes would be mainly for Biden, since most of the people who voted by mail are Democrats

Like. At war?

Missing in Action Kevin lol

He probably just needs some alone time to cope

If he's that upset about the election results then maybe he just needs some time to reflect - I'd leave him be for a bit

I doubt you have anything to worry about, unless by "drunk" you mean "dangerously drunk to the point where he can't even walk properly"

AP finally called Michigan. Biden just needs one more state to win, and it looks like that's Nevada.

Yeah Deplorable - he probably just needs to think to himself for a while.

She just said that he definitely wouldn't lie to her lol

We don't know for sure they "cheated" yet.

Actually Deplorable, I've been following that story and they already corrected the error

It was a mistake that's been fixed now

And either way, that's still not really evidence of fraud. It's been obvious for a while now that most of the people who voted by mail are liberal

So it was fairly predictable that there would be a huge spike in Biden votes once they started counting the mail-in ballots

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/wisconsin-didnt-find-ballots-stop-count-voter-fraud-claims-untrue-politifact/6165435002/

The story you're talking about was fact-checked and found to be false

Trump backed up the conspiracy, but there's no **legitimate** evidence to support it

I was just about to link that Nojogo, heh

Yeah, that claim is false too

Yeah, aside from a few isolated videos here and there of idiots burning bags of ballots (i.e. the one posted earlier), there's so far been no evidence at all of any sort of game-changing Democratic conspiracies

Yeah read the article Deplorable, it explains that situation

My bad, I wrote the wrong thing

But yeah, they explained that in the article

The jump happened, but it was a mistake that's been corrected

There's nothing to sue

Old news dude

But yeah, Biden's pretty much got this in the bag

Not according to Associated Press

None of us know the truth yet

Why shouldn't they be accepted

They've been accepted since the 1800s

That's still a lead, even if it's a small one

Trump's definitely not getting AZ, there's still a chance at him getting NV though

Are there 600k votes left? That's not a terrible chance then

You're not doing a very good job of sleeping

I wonder what his concession stand speech would even look like

The voter gap in Georgia's starting to close, Trump's starting to risk losing the state

It's still really close tega. Biden just needs one more state called for him and the election's over, while Trump needs to win literally everything on the board.

I wouldn't say "obvious" fraud, but we'll see.

That doesn’t sound off at all. Trump has been telling his voters not to vote by mail, while Biden has been telling his voters to vote mainly by mail. Of course the mail ballots would heavily favor Biden.

We discussed this yesterday. Those numbers were due to a systematic glitch, which is why Michigan’s website had different numbers. The mistake has been corrected. It’s not worth worrying about.

That’s not what I said at all @WarlordStarfire . I don’t think anyone’s above fraud necessarily, I just have yet to see any **convincing** evidence that fraud has taken place here.

I’m referring to a more widespread scandal. Yeah, I’ve seen some of the videos of what you’re talking about, and yes, that’s absolutely egregious; but those are just isolated incidents from morons. What I’m talking about is the notion that there’s some widespread hacking of some sort being conducted by Biden’s campaign.

The people who keep saying things like “Biden just got 184k votes out of nowhere!”

I do hope that the guy who was burning ballots gets sent to prison

For what it’s worth, how would a recount help, anyway? If the problem is that ballots are being outright burned, then a recount shouldn’t be able to recover those votes, right?

Nevermind, I just looked it up - the viral video of ballots being burned was a fake.

I just looked up the Sharpie thing too, and I fail to see your point - those votes in Arizona weren’t invalidated either

I’m looking up all of the things you listed and none of them seem to hold any water

So I stand by what I said - there doesn’t yet seem to be any evidence of serious voter fraud (yet).

Evidence?

There are too many this time around

If every single one of the millions of ballots had to be counted by hand, it would be months before we found out who the winner is

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Trump can still win, but it certainly won't be winning "big".

But Trump’s losing the popular vote though

Democrats haven’t been trying to get rid of guns, they just want them to be regulated more efficiently.

“AR’s and semi-autos” doesn’t include non-automatic rifles though?

I see now, thanks

I feel like I’m fine with automatic guns being restricted though. Maybe not the semi-autos, but I have strong reservations about whether or not the public really needs machine guns and crap.

Then maybe those should be regulated too. The amount of civilian shootings that occur in the US is still pretty bad, and obviously some sort of policy change is needed to rectify that.

What do you call the guns that need you to chamber each round? Or the ones that can't be modified to be automatic?

I'm not entirely sure myself what I'm describing, I'm just talking about guns in general which a normal person can't fire twenty times in under a minute

I hope it's a good background check now, especially when we have cases like the Parkland shooting where the guy bought his gun legally and passed whatever background check was used then.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHOaNscsto7/

Interesting read..

No, I just care about evidence and facts

I don't like Biden either, but spreading misinformation around about voter fraud doesn't help anyone.

What are you talking about? The post I linked had nothing to do with news.

It mentioned ABC, but they were the ones who made that graph that conspiracy theorists are spreading around as evidence of fraud

ABC posted that graph, and ABC themselves denounced it, correcting your mistake. Are you saying that ABC first made the graph to help Biden, and then for some reason ... went back on that?

Then they wouldn't have posted it in the first place.

Look, I'll accept that there's a chance that you could be 100% right, but until there's proof I'm not buying into it.

Completely irrelevant to what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about Jacob Blake, or riots, I'm talking about the current election.

I don't "work" for anyone.

Do you understand how debates work? You don't just make irrelevant accusations about your opponent. That doesn't do anything to help your argument.

In an argument, disregarding what your opponent is saying on the basis of an irrelevant character trait is an "ad hominem", which is a logical fallacy. Your argument is weak.

Again, that's a debate for another time. I'm sure that a lot of news is fake news, but how do you know what news is fake and what isn't?

If you don't believe any of the media, then where are you getting your sources saying that fraud is taking place?

Videos of what?

I've only seen one video of that, and the specific video I saw was found to be a fake, so..

I can't find any articles other than that one talking about that. I've found a few that are blatant copy-pastes, but none of them explain where that information or data is coming from, and the only source they're citing is a Twitter post that was proven to be a fake screenshot.

I'd suggest checking your sources before you pedal them as evidence of a mass conspiracy against the democratic process.

If there's evidence to support that something is fake, then yes.

I don't recall saying that I voted for Biden?

They aren't, unless you'd like to provide some evidence that hasn't been debunked already.

Those two things don't contradict each other..? Yes, the United States is a Republic, but voting is still considered a democratic process.

There's definitely a chance that Trump wins