TBH I'd like to get it from someone who actually believes it

But I'm not sure that's possible until...after they stop believing it

It's just hysterical

@Undead Mockingbird You say you were recently far-left, right? Was the plugging your ears something you did? And how did you...remain convinced that the worst intentions were true?

Or at least the most likely explanation

So, open mind, then?

What was her rationale for this?

She was oppressed?

Was this recent?

wat

How

Was it still in process?

So you make it sound like this just happened

Did you also buy into e.g. Kavanaugh, NPC, etc?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kill+all+npcs&t=ffab&atb=v127-5&ia=web

I vaguely want 4chan to weaponize this

The shadenfreude would be great

...but it probably won't make things any better

The secret, longtime conspiracy revealed!

Oh, just make posts/threads claiming it's "practice for the glorious liberation", or insist it's something they've been carefully curating for a long time

And then feed it to MSM

See who picks it up and who goes berserk, and for how long

Probably a good way to identify who you should stay away from

TBH a lot of this progressive hysteria is just like 9/11 conspiracy hysteria

Like, no evidence is really needed

Just a few connectable crumbs

And there we go, truth only a racist would deny!

I can't even get through e.g. this: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2018/10/11/memes-infowars-75-fascist-activists-red-pilled/

It hurts my brain

SOME ACTUAL FASCISTS SAY SARGON WAS THEIR GATEWAY TO FASCISM OMG SARGON CRYPTO-FASCIST

Of course, they never actually _say_ that last part

But it's the implication that, if you deny, you're just dumb/<whatever>-ist

I'm pretty sure htis is a logcial fallacy with a name

Weren't these people the ones who were all about logical fallacies years ago?

To be fair: probably only ever a subset of them

The rationalists ,in particular (and they've _mostly_ stuck to it, actually)

But their compatriots championed them

*sigh*

I really want to believe that the criticisms of the left as just after power/justification are simplistic and dangerous in their own right

But as time goes on, it just seems more and more like a pretty likely explanation

I'm not sure how exactly it diffuses (not every progressive is explicitly wanting this), but it just fits better and better and TBH I don't want it to

But what am I missing, here?

```It’s not uncommon for white supremacist, fascist and anti-Semitic beliefs to arise initially as the result of humor. Four of the seventy-five activists we studied mentioned ironic memes as major red-pills.```

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2018/10/11/memes-infowars-75-fascist-activists-red-pilled/

🤦

Apparently 4/75 is "not uncommon"

To use game terms: this writer would be perfectly comfortable with a random drop of 5% being "Common"

ಠ_ಠ

Oh, that's literally D20

Also the confidence threshold for "statistically significant" in social sciences

(95%)

I don't even need to go into that direction

It's prima facie absurd to call 5% of a sample "not uncommon"

At least if you're also bot willing to basically throw out like all of that lauded social science

```
🅱arD 2017-03-08 03:07:43

Purge all non-whites from every possible Universe.

Chancellor 2017-03-08 03:08:06

What if we're not white enough for another universe?```

I also like how the supposed condemnation of Sargon is...some of them discussing how Sargon's centrism is possibly bad for the far right

```
Insomnant 2017-03-08 02:47:08

My point is that the moderate left won't join us, ever. The moderate right might though. If the guy they have entertaining them is a centrist, the moderate right will stick with him. If they only have a left-wing guy entertaining them they might wind up coming to us

🅱arD 2017-03-08 02:48:07

I was moderate right and I have been going more and more right. If it came to a right vs left war I would choose the right over left or neutral. And I kindof follow Sargon and other centrist.

Insomnant 2017-03-08 02:48:46

But the point is that by removing the central option, the choices become 'left' or 'right.' And anyone disgusted by the left, has to go right```

So, three facts
1) Some fascists like Sargon
2) Some fascists think he's an impediment
3) Both in this discussion agree he is a centrist

Who is Jim

I still don't know what Jim is

I've not

OH noes

Literally normal people with opinions were wrong and/or a bit loopy

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Time to find new confirmation-bias food, I suppose

How is that new?

Literally everything is that mindless jeering these days

Fans are like wards, don'tcha know

You're responsible for their actions

Tim does a good job of being consciously neutral

That's been what's drawn me to his work

This must be a troll

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_(Ayn_Rand)

There you go

Fun times!

Also lots of Aristotle

People usually know that Objectivism is the Ayn Rand philosophy thing in these circles

Whether you like it or don't

So I am surprised

But, feel free to read up--it'll probably come up again

The tl;dr we gave is a fair high-levle view

Ayn Rand tried to make a Grand Unified individualistic philosophy based on Aristotle

How well it succeeds, well, dpeends on who you ask

Self-described Objectivists tend to think it's at least largely, if not entirely, successful

Non-objectivists tend to have a variety of criticisms, but most who are not on the left will generally embrace some core aspects and reject others

Most on the left reject the individualism outright, so I've not dug into their critiques too much

Also lessening military presence

As a thing that's not being done

I had a convo wit ha buddy about Trump just tonight

For him, the degree of hatred seemed to mostly spawn from Trump not being...refined enough for PResident

Like the inconsistent off-the-cuff nonsense

It was...interesting

I genuinely wonder how much of it is just that sentiment that he's desecrating the intitution of the presidency

TBH He does literally contradict himself too much

But I guess I never gave that much esteem to the state

Or at least stopped long ago

I mean, the thing is I sort of agree

The man is a boor and a flake

But that's also not the end of the world to me

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