Dragoncrash

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2020-10-16 04:26:46 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

No I’m not technically a communist

2020-10-16 04:27:00 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

No it isn’t ._.

2020-10-16 04:27:05 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Please educate yourself my friend

2020-10-16 04:27:12 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

._.

2020-10-16 04:27:28 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Communism is a stateless classless moneyless egalitarian society

2020-10-16 04:27:38 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I don’t vibe with that

2020-10-16 04:28:12 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> I think you may be in the wrong server. Yours is outside, in the dumpster fire @Dragoncrash
@jerpeau ah yes yes the memes I love the memes but someone invited me here a couple days ago

2020-10-16 04:28:56 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

@Kaladin well I would have to disagree 🙂

2020-10-16 04:29:02 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Bear

2020-10-16 04:29:11 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Libertarian was originally a word used to describe my ideology

2020-10-16 04:29:16 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

It was appropriated by anarcho capitalists

2020-10-16 04:29:28 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Please look into the etymology of the word

2020-10-16 04:29:36 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Yes

2020-10-16 04:29:40 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Anarcho capitalists

2020-10-16 04:29:45 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

What?

2020-10-16 04:29:47 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Dude

2020-10-16 04:30:04 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> I’m transitioning
@Max4Z based

2020-10-16 04:32:00 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> I'm waiting intently
@TigBiddyBF for what?

2020-10-16 04:32:07 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

You lost your melanin when you didn’t vote for joe

2020-10-16 04:32:09 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I’m sorry

2020-10-16 04:32:24 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Anti fascism as an ideology or the anarchist loonytoons breaking shit in the street

2020-10-16 04:32:40 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Because the former is based the latter is stupid

2020-10-16 04:33:02 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> You’re being racist
@Max4Z I’m making fun of biden for his comment abojt “if you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”

2020-10-16 04:33:09 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash what is your opinion on guns and high powered rifles
@Bear not high powered enough

2020-10-16 04:33:15 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Give the proletariat predator drones

2020-10-16 04:33:30 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

But unironically though

2020-10-16 04:33:34 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I’m anti gun control

2020-10-16 04:33:48 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I wasn’t ._.

2020-10-16 04:33:55 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

You guys haven’t seen those biden memes?

2020-10-16 04:34:00 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

About him stealing melanin

2020-10-16 04:34:13 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> If you find a predator drone let me know lol
@Bear bet we’ll do flying exercises together

2020-10-16 04:34:27 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash I think they're fuckin with u man lol
@TigBiddyBF I can’t tell - I encounter some stupid fucking liberals

2020-10-16 04:34:29 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Let me tell ya

2020-10-16 04:34:42 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Sorry

2020-10-16 04:34:43 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Cope

2020-10-16 04:34:46 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Fuck your aura

2020-10-16 04:34:54 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash you are a liberal
@Bear not at all

2020-10-16 04:34:58 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I’m far from a liberal

2020-10-16 04:35:03 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Like so far from a liberal

2020-10-16 04:35:10 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Liberalism is a specific ideological framework

2020-10-16 04:35:16 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I’m a Marxist

2020-10-16 04:35:18 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

🙂

2020-10-16 04:35:51 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> You are a libertarian socialist and now a Marxist
@Bear correct.

2020-10-16 04:35:53 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Both.

2020-10-16 04:36:09 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Marxism is an ideological and philosophical framework used to analyze the world, society and political problems

2020-10-16 04:36:15 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Socialism is a type of economic structure

2020-10-16 04:36:21 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

So yes I am a Marxist and a libertarian socialist

2020-10-16 04:37:07 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> OK dragon, let me see if I am getting this correct. You think that the basis of socialism is good because you think that the government should provide everybody with livable housing and healthcare and stuff. But you also think people should have immense freedoms which is why you’re a libertarian. I think I understand what you’re saying. But it just doesn’t work out in real world government @Dragoncrash
@Kaladin it’s a bit more complicated than that - socialism is not when you get handouts from the government but you’re on the right track yes

2020-10-16 04:37:21 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

This describes my ideology broadly speaking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707691030748594294/766520132326391808/image0.png

2020-10-16 04:38:02 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash this isn’t a real person with real views lol
@Bear I’m sorry you don’t know how political theory works

2020-10-16 04:38:16 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Dragon did u vote the Don in 2016?? @Dragoncrash
@TigBiddyBF if I could’ve voted I would’ve voted for Bernie

2020-10-16 04:38:21 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I voted for Bernie in the primaries

2020-10-16 04:38:48 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

And I’ll make the game time decision in the ballot box as to whether or not I’ll vote biden as I vote for my other local representatives

2020-10-16 04:39:21 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash He would’ve voted Bernie bro . He’s literally a communist
@Bear Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist by his own words - but advocates for a policy of social democracy - a model similar to the Nordic countries

2020-10-16 04:39:32 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Biden actually has dementia lol
@Bear <:Yes:629867013782896650>

2020-10-16 04:40:16 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> the guy in the video who's a libertarian socialist is braindead
@Lukario Yes.

2020-10-16 04:40:19 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Your point being?

2020-10-16 04:40:57 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> there's no such thing as a libertarian socialist
@Lukario you’re objectively incorrect I’m sorry you don’t know how these terms work

2020-10-16 04:41:15 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash Bernie polices are actually communist . Also I’m glad you agree Biden actually has dementia and clearly is being heavily guarded and medicated by the media and his party . And you are going to vote for an 80 year old man who has dementia for president of these United States
@Bear Bernie Sanders is not a communist

2020-10-16 04:41:24 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Also I never said I was voting for biden

2020-10-16 04:41:29 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I’m simply against trump

2020-10-16 04:41:37 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash who represents your party in Congress or in the senate OH WAIT NOBODY
@Bear correct

2020-10-16 04:41:42 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> their ideologies contradict each other
@Lukario incorrect

2020-10-16 04:41:53 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

You’re thinking of right wing libertarianism

2020-10-16 04:42:03 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Stop thinking about things in terms of parties

2020-10-16 04:42:08 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

What on earth?

2020-10-16 04:42:27 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I was talking to bear

2020-10-16 04:42:48 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Why are you against Trump? @Dragoncrash
@Kaladin so many different reasons that would instantly get me dogpiled by everyone in chat more than I already am

2020-10-16 04:43:09 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Dragon I'm asking a simple question. How is bernie gonna give everyone free stuff
@TigBiddyBF he isn’t

2020-10-16 04:43:20 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Anarchists have no brains

2020-10-16 04:43:29 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Tough work being a troll huh @Dragoncrash
@jerpeau I’m not a troll ._.

2020-10-16 04:44:19 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

How am I trolling? From the moment I said hi in chat I’ve been dogpiled consistently, subject to adhoms and straw mans and have yet to fire back or insult anyone or get mad or meme

2020-10-16 04:44:23 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

In what way am I being a troll?

2020-10-16 04:44:32 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Just because I have views you guys haven’t heard much about?

2020-10-16 04:44:52 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

@jerpeau one of your members invited me to it

2020-10-16 04:45:07 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707691030748594294/766522086289440768/image0.png

2020-10-16 04:45:22 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> But why did YOU join?
@jerpeau because I like talking to people and discussing politics ._.

2020-10-16 04:46:24 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Bernie Sanders is the most popular Senator in the United States of America

2020-10-16 04:46:41 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Is that why you thought it wise to recruit for your party here @Dragoncrash
@jerpeau ????

2020-10-16 04:46:45 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

What?

2020-10-16 04:47:18 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> This guy is a total liberal
@Bear False. Liberalism necessitates capitalism

2020-10-16 04:47:23 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I am anti capitalist

2020-10-16 04:47:38 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

CNN is a 24/7 pro war propaganda outlet

2020-10-16 04:47:52 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I said “????”

2020-10-16 04:47:56 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

What are you talking about

2020-10-16 04:48:36 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

._.

2020-10-16 04:48:52 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash why are u anti capitalist? It's worked for years why do u hate it?
@TigBiddyBF I don’t hate it. I think humanity can do better

2020-10-16 04:49:20 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> U said ur anti capitalist tho @Dragoncrash
@TigBiddyBF correct

2020-10-16 04:49:46 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Anti capitalist as in the internal contradictions under capitalism necessitates my opposition to the system

2020-10-16 04:50:09 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> So why are u anti capitalist if it's worked for so long??? @Dragoncrash
@TigBiddyBF do you want the short answer or the long answer

2020-10-16 04:50:35 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Das Kapital by Karl Marx is the long answer

2020-10-16 04:50:59 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

The short answer is I believe that fundamentally a worker is entitled to the full product of their labor

2020-10-16 04:51:43 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Profit is the extraction of excess labor value from the worker: they are then paid a percentage of what their labor is worth in a wage. A capitalist will always pay you for your labor for less than what it’s worth

2020-10-16 04:53:10 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @Dragoncrash
> But by offering the job in the first place, they make your labor worth more than it would have otherwise been worth.
@Arkayde No, they simply own the means of production.

2020-10-16 04:53:27 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

No but they do

2020-10-16 04:53:30 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Risk is not labor

2020-10-16 04:53:35 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Labor is what creates value

2020-10-16 04:53:43 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

This is known as the labor theory of value

2020-10-16 04:53:51 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

First conceived of by Adam Smith

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