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Hello

who here is christian?

i need someone to convince me to be a christian

because i want to be one

but i am unconvinced

i want to be one

i just need convincing

okay

what are yalls thoughts on immigration?

what kind of people want to break it apart?

It helps the economy

many studies have found this

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/jors.12004
https://www.epi.org/publication/bp255/
https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/feature/an-open-letter-from-1470-economists-on-immigration/
https://wol.iza.org/articles/do-immigrant-workers-depress-the-wages-of-native-workers/long

well, considering like half of fortune 500 ceos are immigrants or children of immigrants

common sense would indicate immigration is good

outsourcing is inevitable

with or without immigrants

welfare is fine

its at a 3 trillion dollar surplus

a house =/= a country

> being a ceo of a company means nothing @VirtualizingReality being a ceo at a fortune 500 company on the other hand, that has value, its not hard to start a business and be ceo
@Desperado Dave yes, and close to half of fortune 500 ceos are immigrants

or children of immigrants

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2017/12/04/almost-half-of-fortune-500-companies-were-founded-by-american-immigrants-or-their-children/

I have sent plenty of data

the wages of native born citizens went up with more immigration

if you take the time to read the studies I sent, you would know that

but nah, you just want to keep making random conjectures

that is illegal

Immigrants commit less crime

Yes per capita

It is looking at criminal convictoins

everyone has jaywalked or gone over the speed limit, but it would not make sense to count them

almost everyone has committed some kind of violation in the law

this is looking at convictions, which is what matters

illegal immigrants arent citizens

do you understand what you are talking about?

which law?

could u send a source on that

where does that say anything about getting hit by cars

it is talking about uninsured population

the only situation where i could think of the government paying for the healthcare of an illegal immigrant who got hit by a car is if it was a police vehicle

or something

that hit the person

That is how all hospitals work

Im fine with them getting welfare

50-75% of farm workers in america are illegal immigrants

I would think we would want them to be taken care of

if we want to be fed

I would rather just give them amnesty so they start paying more taxes

Doesnt work

50% of farmers said they couldnt find enough labor

even with resorting to illegal immigrants

we already have a shortage of workers

deporting them would make it worse

Even if they pay legal wages, they still cant find people

not many americans are willing to do the work illegals do

Trump has cut immigration

even legal immigration

so his actions dont reflect wanting more immigration

cope

imagine losing a debate and then resulting to insults

is it not?

cope harder

hurr durr communism

apparently immigration = communism

absolute retardation

Id rather not have any illegal immigrants

just give them citizenship

Also, giving illegal immigrants welfare isnt communism

If you convince me, i will become christian

basically

"you're a communist"

are you sure you know what communism is?

I am 100% against the labor theory of value

so i am definitely not a communist

i doubt there are enough white immigrants

preferably id want more asian immigrants cause they tend to be more educated

> VR. Are you here to seek or debate Christianity
@Robert both

> They have cultural problems.
@Dark Rose in what way?

Yes

i have talked to many people about christianity on discord

i have talked to a wide variety of christians, from people who think only white people get into heaven to people who think gays get into heaven

I still see no conclusive proof of the bible being the word of god

yep

Nah

first i was into politics

then everyone started using religious justification for political views

so i got into religion

that was initially

now i just like talking about religion

I am somewhere between agnostic and deist

i cant really decide between the 2

I think people use the notion of an afterlife as a means to cope with death

but I dont think it is necessary to cope with death

yep

it is possible

but it is also possible that i wont be held accountable

Jezebel was a false prophet right?