The effects are that it helps minorités break the cycle of poverty and achieve success on their own.

*minorities lol

And I of course disagree with putting blacks on top of whites as much as I do whites on top of blacks. But I think both of those are a far cry from *moderate* modern liberalism.

They weren’t really enslaved for hundreds of years though

Which sort of sets them apart from African Americans

Sort of does

Through the intergenerational effects we already mentioned

If your parents are poor, you automatically face additional hardships to success

Plus blacks were heavily discriminated against in America until as recent as the 1960s

Which is 50 years

Barely two generations

It’s almost 55 years since the civil rights act of 1964

Rosa Parks died in 2005, for goodness sakes

We were all alive here in 2005

Yet you can understand that the legacy of racism and segregation still very much survives to this day

You can see above some of the older public bathrooms in our town the letters “WHITE” and “COLORED” that have been scraped off

Strongly disagree

Considering we’ve had a black president it’s hard to say they don’t try to succeed

You’ve heard of redlining, white flight, blockbusting?

Those forces were most powerful in Chicago

And other similar cities

It was caused mostly by blockbusting, and it led to the flight of capital and tax revenue into surrounding areas

My neighbor is black

But not my other neighbor

(One of my neighbors)

You mean a sort of ghetto-type?

Nope

But they directly hurt blacks in the area due to racism and racial fears, causing overcrowded ghettoes that developed poverty due to all the established tax base and wealth fleeing

That’s 40 years ago

There are also a lot of vacant houses

House prices in Detroit

That’s a stereotype

Where do you live

Like I’ve said, black ghettoes in US cities are anomalies called by racist economic phenomena during the postwar era

That’s one of the worst kinds of racism

To say it doesn’t exist and hasn’t existed

That’s what redlining is

Refusing to loan to low-income and ethnic minority zones

I’m not saying that we should give black people free money to do nothing

Im saying we give them the tools they need to succeed to break the cycle of poverty

Equal opportunity, not equal outcome, as you would say

Yes

Clean up the gangs

Affirmative action promotes equality of opportunity

CRA prompted equal access to loans

I love next to solidly middle-class African Americans who own their own business

Calling poverty their “equilibrium state” is an incorrect sweeping generalization

More than half of blacks are middle class or higher

Yes, as city ghettoes drag the average down

Those states exclude welfare

What watermark

Here’s your BLS

20% of blacks make an average of $6300 a year, while 20% make an average of $112000 a year

and you can see that low-income blacks own far fewer vehicles on average than other groups

I have to leave guys

Sorry

Looks fun

The game wasn’t as fun as I had hoped

Hi

Eek

I have yet to be given the same definition for socialism twice

It’s a socialized public service

Like I said

I’ve never gotten the same definition twice

But I’m going to go off of the Internet definition and say it’s when the means of production are collectively owned

Venezuela’s problem isn’t so much socialism as it was just idiotically printing virtually unlimited money. Cuba’s more socialist than Venezuela, and while they’re still not as good as free capitalist countries, they’re a heck of a lot better off than Venezuela

That also

Cuba’s been stagnant, Venezuela’s catastrophically collapses

Looks like only libgay are left in this channel

What’s you guys’ opinion on direct democracy?

That’s fine man

One thing I hated when I was on other servers was when I would say “sorry, I have to go” or something and they’d be like “ha, another libtard too scared to talk”/“left wing destroyed”

Honestly though basically all of the allegations I’ve ever heard against “Democrats” or “Liberals” or “the Left” are just blatantly wrong, I hope it’s the same for the other side

One of my favorite memes is Charlie Kirk/TPUSA memes

Can’t post pictures in here but they’re great

Except the 2000-mile southern border is somewhat different from a 20 foot wide subway entrance

Plus it won’t address the poverty and instability in Central America that keeps sending migrants north

How about a force field

What about both building a good fence to keep out crime and whatnot coupled with concentrated investment into Mexico itself to reduce the push factors of leaving

Motion-activated machine guns

Certainly be a deterrent 😎

Oh gosh

it’s Obama E Lee

Or pull a “get homeless vets jobs scouring the desert for illegals” type thing

Most sensible people

Why not ban people

Never any deaths anymore

Heck yeah

The Ban Everything Party

Run with no VP bc you want to ban VPs

What do you guys think about the Portuguese strategy of decriminalizing drugs and treating addiction as a disease instead of a crime

To fighting the illegals

Just buy $35 bil of Mexico’s northern border

That would be like renting Mexico