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2017-05-24 16:22:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

yes

2017-05-24 16:22:27 UTC [Realism #general]  

him

2017-05-24 16:34:50 UTC [Realism #general]  

nah he's right

2017-05-24 16:35:47 UTC [Realism #general]  

He's saying that the modern "conservative" conception of masculinity in the family context is that of a "provider" role. He makes the money and provides for the material needs of the family.

2017-05-24 16:37:00 UTC [Realism #general]  

sure but I'm just summarizing your comments about the role of the male in the family context.

2017-05-24 16:37:06 UTC [Realism #general]  

the first half anyway

2017-05-24 17:49:39 UTC [Realism #general]  

redd

2017-05-24 17:49:47 UTC [Realism #general]  

whoops

2017-05-24 17:49:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

disregard

2017-05-24 17:53:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

I listen to a lot of black, OSDM, thrash, and power, roughly in that order

2017-05-24 17:55:40 UTC [Realism #general]  

Summoning, Spectral Lore, Saor, Ihsahn, Necrophagist, Rotting Christ, Obituary, Testament, Kreator, Whiplash, Twilight Force, Lost Horizon

2017-05-24 17:55:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

off the top of my hea

2017-05-24 17:55:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

d

2017-05-24 17:56:15 UTC [Realism #general]  

lots of Gorguts lately. Lots of Wilderun.

2017-05-24 17:56:40 UTC [Realism #general]  

some proggy stuff like Ephel Duath, Dysrhythmia, Godrian Knot

2017-05-24 17:56:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

no

2017-05-24 17:56:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

the latter, to some extent

2017-05-24 17:57:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

I've divined that Maarat posts there

2017-05-24 17:57:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

that's all i know

2017-05-24 17:58:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

oh neat

2017-05-24 17:59:41 UTC [Realism #general]  

gimme a second to review

2017-05-24 18:02:08 UTC [Realism #general]  

haven't heard: Absurd, Cadaver, Demigod, Demoncy, Fleshcrawl, Havohej, Ildjarn, Pathologist, Sinister, Varathron

If I'm interpreting the chart wrong lemme know.

2017-05-24 18:02:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

that's just black and death. I see

2017-05-24 18:04:06 UTC [Realism #general]  

Doom Haven't Heard: Assuck, Ras Algethi

2017-05-24 18:04:21 UTC [Realism #general]  

Grindcore: Terrorizer, Blood

2017-05-24 18:04:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

Thrash: Morbid Saint, Assassin

2017-05-24 18:04:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

Heavy: heard all

2017-05-24 18:06:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

I misspoke. I've heard their Walpurgisnacht album, now that I look into it

2017-05-24 18:07:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

I recognize the cover art. But it's been a while. I'll relisten. I'm old enough that I have holes in my lists because I used to have to order CDs from label catalogs

2017-05-24 18:07:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

downloading now

2017-05-24 18:10:28 UTC [Realism #general]  

my queue right now is Eleven Dragons by Acrimonious -> Grave Ekstasis by Ikrallian Oracle -> Thrash and Destroy by Hirax -> Emperor of Sand by Mastodon -> Jumalten Aika by Moonsorrow

2017-05-24 18:10:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

and now the Varathron album

2017-05-24 18:15:56 UTC [Realism #general]  

haha okay Varathron after Acrimonious since that one's already playing

2017-05-24 18:16:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

who is the golden one

2017-05-24 18:16:52 UTC [Realism #general]  

oh him. with the swords

2017-05-24 19:03:59 UTC [Realism #general]  

I perceive a problem with abortion in the US on the horizon as new medical tech pushes "viability" earlier and earlier until Roe v. Wade is meaningless

2017-05-24 19:23:51 UTC [Realism #general]  

not yourself on ramadan? grab a snickers

2017-05-24 19:40:25 UTC [Realism #general]  

lol

2017-05-24 19:40:35 UTC [Realism #general]  

he made a dnd knock-off

2017-05-24 19:41:53 UTC [Realism #general]  

@custer there is an alt-right split on the question you asked. Some camps suggest following a writer named Julius' Evola's concept of "riding the tiger" which means just protect yourself and try to enjoy the decline of civilization

2017-05-24 19:42:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

Other camps want to try to do something about it, but nobody agrees on what to do.

2017-05-24 19:42:24 UTC [Realism #general]  

And everything everyone suggests is really improbably

2017-05-24 19:43:43 UTC [Realism #general]  

white identity groups creating rankings among themselves is a waste of time. It's a mirror of the ideological purity tests rampant on the left right now.

2017-05-24 19:44:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

he went to iraq under saddam?

2017-05-24 19:45:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

It's just a waste of time to say "white people are great, but fuck slavs though" or "fuck irish." They share more interests than they don't.

2017-05-24 19:47:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

@The Enlightened Shepherd yeah. That's my understanding. Opposition is pointless and meaningless. It's a storm to be weathered as best one can

2017-05-24 20:00:20 UTC [Realism #general]  

MK is right that massive violence is one option. It strikes me as exceptionally unlikely though. At least for the next hundred years or so

2017-05-24 20:03:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

@MK maybe. I could see it happening that way. My worry is that the rot will not become clear enough (in the US anyway) in 10 years. Maybe Europe. I'm unknowledgeable about Europe.

2017-05-24 20:15:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

initial problem is opportunity costs. individuals fear to speak uncomfy truths from fear of censure. similarly, individuals fear to incite violence because white violence is punished while POC violence is lauded

2017-05-24 20:33:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

The problem is that we are betrayed by our own countrymen

2017-05-24 20:33:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

And it's harder to expunge them violently

2017-05-24 20:55:04 UTC [Realism #general]  

@fallot varathron on deck

2017-05-24 20:57:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm going to listen to probably 5-6 albums tonight thanks to a big deadline tomorrow so if you have any other recs hit me

2017-05-24 21:00:03 UTC [Realism #general]  

It's not very hard work. Just checking cites and making sure everything's pretty and clean

2017-05-24 21:05:18 UTC [Realism #general]  

what do you study

2017-05-24 21:21:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

@fallot this is sick good rec

2017-05-25 00:20:50 UTC [Realism #general]  

congressional candidate body slams reporter on the night before his election

2017-05-25 00:21:13 UTC [Realism #general]  

allegedly <:yehuda:286647952569532417>

2017-05-25 00:55:07 UTC [Realism #general]  

He's way ahead in early voting

2017-05-25 06:07:12 UTC [Realism #general]  

weirdly hairless ass

2017-05-25 06:18:31 UTC [Realism #general]  

you're thinking of this guy

2017-05-25 06:18:47 UTC [Realism #general]  

the amazing atheist / banana butthole enthusiast

2017-05-25 06:20:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

recc me another album, i'm at the end of Benediction's Transcend the Rubicon

2017-05-25 06:23:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

haha okay

2017-05-25 06:23:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

35 minutes. Nice. 35-45m is the sweet spot for albums

2017-05-25 07:17:27 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm pretty sure I have but I wouldn't say I'm very familiar with them at all.

2017-05-25 07:21:23 UTC [Realism #general]  

I am in the fucking zone right now.

2017-05-25 07:27:32 UTC [Realism #general]  

THE zone. Like the focus zone where you get a lot of good work done.

2017-05-25 07:28:25 UTC [Realism #general]  

what supuration album should I start with

2017-05-25 07:30:08 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'm almost positive i've heard a some of their stuff but it was probably 8+ years ago

2017-05-25 07:49:08 UTC [Realism #general]  

the static on whatever they're doing the lead guitar on this is used really well. Great sound

2017-05-25 07:53:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

reminds me of Mithras a little bit

2017-05-25 08:23:20 UTC [Realism #general]  

yeah

2017-05-26 01:17:41 UTC [Realism #general]  

lol

2017-05-26 01:17:57 UTC [Realism #general]  

you don't support college kids going on trips to "find themselves?"

2017-05-26 15:14:38 UTC [Realism #general]  

"redistribution" implies government action, i.e. a tax/entitlement system.
yes under different systems, wealth ends up allocated differently. But you @Deleted User 57835c2c are ignoring the means of allocation
@diversity_is_racism seems to be arguing that competition is a method distinct from governmental "redistribution"
yes I am aware that capitalist systems include governmental coercion still

2017-05-26 15:16:14 UTC [Realism #general]  

I have no issue with it

2017-05-26 15:16:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

They don't "necessarily" they just always do for various reason

2017-05-26 15:17:37 UTC [Realism #general]  

sure I'm just saying that an-caps and syndicalists or whoever have their theories

2017-05-26 15:17:40 UTC [Realism #general]  

but in reality, yes

2017-05-26 15:19:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

@OJneg without government, lots of externalities wouldn't be internalized because of the relative power of the actor to the effected group. There is also a tragedy of the commons problem

2017-05-26 15:22:51 UTC [Realism #general]  

What about a situation where they dump waste water into a river system that you use for fishing and other recreation

2017-05-26 15:22:58 UTC [Realism #general]  

damaging the ecosystem

2017-05-26 15:27:18 UTC [Realism #general]  

In the water pollution example, the corp isn't using force. They are just avoiding the cost of dealing with their waste responsibly by putting that burden on others. There, government coercion would force them to deal with their own waste and internalize those costs.

It's an example of where government coercion allocates wealth within a broadly capitalist system.

2017-05-26 15:30:28 UTC [Realism #general]  

@fallot I agree that the economic analysis isn't the be-all-end-all, and that morals can't be predicated on fetterless individual liberty

2017-05-26 15:49:49 UTC [Realism #general]  

I think I would reject large swathes of modernism. Specifically, many of its ethical developments.

2017-05-26 15:50:17 UTC [Realism #general]  

Egalitarianism, the flattening of hierarchies, the elevation of the importance of the individual, the obsession with materialism

2017-05-26 17:53:48 UTC [Realism #general]  

@fallot just finished the Pathologist album. It was really good. I sorta wished they'd done a little bit more to integrate the kinda tibetan vibe from the intro throughout the rest of the album more. They did it in theme and in structure some, but I was hoping for some more varied instrumentation just based on the expectations created by that cool intro.

2017-05-26 17:54:21 UTC [Realism #general]  

I'll probably listen to that one and The Cube again soon

2017-05-26 18:33:29 UTC [Realism #general]  

I will. But I really liked The Cube. That will probably end up on a short list for me

2017-05-26 19:40:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

should i listen to Azazel given their drunk as fuck set at Steelfest

2017-05-26 21:06:06 UTC [Realism #general]  

internal or external

2017-05-26 21:31:09 UTC [Realism #general]  

yo

2017-05-26 21:31:42 UTC [Realism #general]  

yes

2017-05-26 21:33:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

haha

2017-05-26 21:37:44 UTC [Realism #general]  

S > A > B?

2017-05-26 23:18:22 UTC [Realism #general]  

non competes are fucked but not generally very enforceable. probably less enforceable than usual for an average fast food employee

2017-05-26 23:18:54 UTC [Realism #general]  

@Deleted User 57835c2c well just push it back in man

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