look it up

good night teuthex

lol reidoon why do you speak for MLK

martin luther king was for economic redistribution

thats why he got killed

lol you can watch videos of it dude

mlk talking about massive economic redistribution

passionately

there are numerous historical accounts

you guys haven't even investigated this at all

it's like well accepted

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-conspiracy-to-kill-martin-luther-king/Content?oid=875281

lmao

thats absurd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King_Jr.#FBI_investigation

centurion i'll gladly hear your voice

reidoon my article was about the assasination

you want redistribution stuff?

lol im not into the cuck shit, but you can find that like everywhere

centurion

my honest beliefs:

1. change legislation, remove cash bail that disproportionately impacts poor people, implement new police training, etc

police racism -> disproportionately negative treatment of black people

procedural justice training for example

additionately, there are bias trainings

that have experimental weight behind them

reidoon, the key is to only shoot when there's feasible evidence of a violent criminal

like a gun

or a sudden movement towards a pocket

but not skin color alone

no, go ahead and shoot

but there are plenty of cases where clearly unarmed people are shot

non-compliance =/= has a gun

resistance =/= having a weapon

you said it

you said it has a higher chance of having a weapon

what im advocating for is, only assume they have a gun if theres direct evidence they have a gun

don't rely on these shorthand probabilities

yeah thats fine!

thats not what happens though! im talking about other circumstances

sure, and there are unjust white deaths

that said, data don't support the idea that white people are disproportionately shot based on their race

this is the most famous study of police shootings and bias

http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399

really?

show me

lol

yes, they are

what, black people can't be anti-black?

go ahead

all cops should have bias trainings

here's what i'm saying

listen

black people commit more crime proportionally. (why? I claim it's because of poverty, among other factors). cops then start to believe black people are more likely to be criminals. in some sense, this is "rational", ok. but then innocent black people are more likely to be treated with force/shot

okay, truthfully i believe there are some serious additional factors at play, but poverty is the easiest one to argue from

yes, being in america makes one naturally more wealthy than many other places

but that doesn't mean one isn't poor

25% of the black population is below the poverty line

it's essential to situate poverty within cost of living in location

the idea of living on 3$ a day in america is really absurd

the unemployment rate of African Americans increased substantially faster than that of whites

what i actually think is that it's because of racism!

http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_09172003/

explain why candidates with equivalent qualifications would get hired at different rates?

did you see my study

i knew that

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

here's another one

with equvalent resumes

lol okay i get your point, without even looking them up i'm fine to disregard that study

here's my issue wit hthat

my issue is that there are clear inequalities that currently exist, and have historical precedent, and i've seen personally and heard about personally

and i feel that unless those inequalities are remedied, it's not possible to make a genetic argument because there are confounds

why is it that you don't believe in racism?

and believe in the genetic argument?

well, you and i disagree that there are disproportionate shootings of blacks

particularly innocent blacks

reidoon, what do you say to my postulation that it's "rational" based on crime percentages but should be corrected

i'm saying, even if it's based on real probabilities, it results in more innocent black death, and that's an ethical issue

that can be corrected

through training

shoot him

lol

reidoon, i'm saying that relying on an increased probability of black people being violent is unethical

and that there are more concrete signals that a suspect is violent/armed

sextipede, no i didn't

i have said the same thing this whole conversation about shooting

if they have a gun, go ahead, shoot

no i didn't lol

that's a total misread of my statements

that makes me into a caricature

anyway, i'm going to try to gather some more data

thanks for your conversation

cops shoot innocent black people disproportionately more than they shoot innocent white people

bias training would alleviate this

fewer innocent people would die

there's no evidence of that

but the point is

since they shoot more innocent black people than innocent white people

relative to what