@Clonemaster™ 6.41 true, socialism is a perfect target for power hungry men

@Extra Crispy lol more propaganda

just liek they ate their own pets too?@Extra Crispy 😂

@Extra Crispy how about the u.s funded right wing oposition burning down mega food distribution centers? does that make them starve?

yes, marco rubio was on fox last month trying to get support from the base to give them another 20 million this year, its not a hidden fact@Extra Crispy

@// do you know what democratic socialism means? decentralized power

LOL

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 no, its just not a reality,

@futurestorms lol thats not how it works

@Extra Crispy no small buiss, get taxed in venezuela

also, in reality we see the u.s sabotage and really make shure they socialist movements dont work, hence venezuela

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 you really think germany had no capitalism? and was socialist?

@Extra Crispy 1900's? when corporations abusing workers gave birth to socialist movements in the u.s and started gaining traction, and forced FDR to make the "new deal"

if it were not for the new deal, you would be workin 12 hours a day under shit conditions, like a slave

it gave protections for workers

increased wages

@Fusion o gee, well i guess the alternative would be people working 12 hours aday and paid 25 cents an hour today

sweet

meanwhile the corporations get rich

sweet

@Fusion yea i said today

lol

i mean 25 cents rn

thats what they would pay you, infact we see what corporatiions do when not watched by gov, look at chine apple factories, they literally put suicide nets so that the workers dont kill themselves coz of shitty working conditions

@Extra Crispy

thats what they would pay you, infact we see what corporatiions do when not watched by gov, look at chine apple factories, they literally put suicide nets so that the workers dont kill themselves coz of shitty working conditions ,@Extra Crispy thats what it would be here if not for the new deal

if not for socialist movements that forced the new deal

@Fusion he did it on purpose

good to see no one could retort this statement "infact we see what corporatiions do when not watched by gov, look at chine apple factories, they literally put suicide nets so that the workers dont kill themselves coz of shitty working conditions ,@Extra Crispy thats what it would be here if not for the new deal

gg nice chat boys

@Fusion they are bought of by corporations

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 it was so socialist it was a right wing dictatorship

centralized power=right wing, decentralized gov= left wing

you want the gov to be small so that corporations can have unchecked power dont you? @Clonemaster™ 6.41 ]

"free market" and then they start paying off gov...o wait they already do that

"free market" and then they start paying off gov...o wait they already do that@Clonemaster™ 6.41

hence we see corruption

why does the FDA allow toxic chemicals in our foor?@Clonemaster™ 6.41 coz money = power, and so corporations use that power to infuence gov

@Fusion lol you think my local congressman can stand up to billionaire corporations?

a right, thats why we are not in wars, thats why our food supply even witth common knoledge about it being shit is being changed.......@Fusion

@Fusion i never said that

i said that corporations get to by pass health concerns, by paying off governent@Fusion

go for it

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 they dont to assume people will do the right thing in positions of power is unrealistic

@Fusion was it barring anyone from buying it ?

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 right, except the problem is not gov, ITS CORPORATIONS trying to buy off the gov, with less gov, they dont have to pay off shit, they now have afree pass to do as they please lmao

@Fusion lol, i agree it is silly

@futurestorms imagine if corporations could put addictive chemicals that would make you want to purchase said soda and consume it in a very alarming rate, regardless of health concerns to you, you think they would not if they could? there motive after all is profit

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 first of no, the constitution does not mention protecting corporations, also what kind of biases shit is, "protecting them " but not "regullationg them"

@futurestorms you think people that smoke cigs dont want to stop? do they say "hey its not like someone is holding agun to my head"

there are chemicals in the cigs that make it extemely hard to quit

@futurestorms also what about monopolies in which a single corporations controls 80 to 90

of the product

what choice do you have when a small group control most of the "choices"

@futurestorms right and then they can influence gov with all that money

@futurestorms yea lobbying, lol you made it sond like a good thing, but you are a right winger lmao

so i would not be surprised

@futurestorms nothing wrong with that i guess

@Extra Crispy and what if those groups develop more sinister intentions than the corps?

@Extra Crispy

how about.......NO LOBBYING

wait but you think the nra is not an example of lobbying groups? ever heard of weapons companies?

@Extra Crispy

@futurestorms sound good

sounds good

yea

i agree

yes

@futurestorms

@Extra Crispy i mean it just sound like such an ineficient way to deal with the problem "the solution to lobbying is.....more lobbying!" how about no lobbying?

and gov is just there for the people

true

that is the problem with, money = power

@Extra Crispy yea, but it would remove in theory , just anybody being able to influence gov

yea, thats why socialist movements believe the workers own the product

well it prevents anyone taking away their resources that they produce

any product that they produce

lol

@Extra Crispy which is why it will be made out of regional representitives elected by the people of those regions

democratic socialism@Extra Crispy

@Fusion well fuck it, if thats what they elected

@Extra Crispy so they are gonna get more bananas then they need? thats less of an incentinve to become corrupt then money that can buy anything

@Extra Crispy my point is what if the people that produce the goods are the ones that distribute them,

@Extra Crispy right they wont need to give anything for free, when the others can produce for themselves

remembers the people have the means for production

@Extra Crispy and thats fine

but also in modern days there are collectives such as in latin america, that literally mean, we all work, we all eat, they contribute to growing the food, and they all eat

but also in modern days there are collectives such as in latin america, that literally mean, we all work, we all eat, they contribute to growing the food, and they all eat@Extra Crispy

thats how socialism works

@Extra Crispy and its up to them to sort it out

@Extra Crispy decentralized actually

logistics as in to distribute the goods?

yea

they would transport as needed

says you

lol there is already examples of it being done, ratehr than just yourr wishful thinking

lol no a dem gov, handlling it'

there is already examples of it

@Extra Crispy right and so human hands would operate

the dem gov