There's a reason why most authoritarian states collapsed after the Industrial revolution

We developed beyond tough times

Would you rather have a dystopia for a few decades or no society at all?

If everyone is infertile and there is an imminent risk of there being no next generation

Yes, it is an inevitable if nothing is done

The goalposts were never moved

See the beginning of my argument

I believe in the concept of "only what is *necessary* should be done"

Meaning if there is nothing more reasonable or humane available as an option

It's okay to do some bad shit for a little while

If most people are infertile

There's a risk, right?

But how much time do we have to make sure that risk doesn't develop? How likely is it the bad thing actually happens?

Obviously the standard concept of marriage collapses in such a situation

The market has failed. There's a good chance that many fertile people won't meet each other for their entire lives

Right, but the risks we face in the first world are leagues away from the kind of scenario I'm describing right now. It's a false equivalence

I should also say that it's highly unlikely that such a scenario will ever occur, thankfully

And you do both

You prepare for a brighter future

And you do what you have to right now

Whatever the means are for accomplishing those two things vary with the exact situation

Again, I think there are existing legal standards and precedents that help us determine whether the ends truly do justify the means, and I expect any kind of emergency decision to be held to those kinds of standards before being implemented

We can continue in <#515246258571575297> later if you like

You take care as well. Thanks for humoring me @InsaneCaterpilla