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2018-12-13 02:36:52 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@Xinyue agreed

2018-12-13 02:37:08 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@Xinyue ni shi hen tiancai

2018-12-13 02:38:18 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

you literally just said "Humans came up with God" but tried to make it sound as smart you possibly could

2018-12-13 02:38:56 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

niggger

2018-12-13 02:39:11 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

n-i-g-g-e-r-s

2018-12-13 02:39:23 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

cya

2018-12-13 02:40:34 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@Xinyue i think this may be my position to, i've had a hard time "picking a side" when it came to the Israeli-Palestine issue

2018-12-13 08:59:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

are people really arguing the tired "socialism doesn't work" tripe?

2018-12-13 08:59:34 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

B-O-R-I-N-G

2018-12-13 09:00:03 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

i feel like most socialists have taken note of this and acknowledge that they first need to build wealth

2018-12-13 09:00:12 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

autarky isn't sensible in any aspect

2018-12-13 09:00:20 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

well... basic autarky is i guess

2018-12-13 09:00:36 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

>Euro-American

you're a mutt, shut up

2018-12-13 09:00:59 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

He said it was the golden opportunity

2018-12-13 09:01:07 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

>Strasser was your golden opportunity

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2018-12-13 09:01:21 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

i genuinely hope you outgrow fascism, friend.... it's cringy as fuck

2018-12-13 09:01:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

โค you can be a mutt in your mutt country

2018-12-13 09:01:49 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

np

2018-12-13 09:02:21 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

National-Anarchism tho

2018-12-13 09:02:24 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

๐Ÿ˜Ž

2018-12-13 09:02:43 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Another USSR won't happen

2018-12-13 09:04:15 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

the correlation of all socialist nations has always been they've been recently feudalistic societies with a huge peasant population @Xinyue Currently I don't know of any country like this, the world is now fully globalised and all nations have transitioned from Feudalism to Capitalism, nations that recently were feudalistic and were still transitioning had the opportunity to become socialist, the 20th century was your chance, it was destroyed by Liberalism just like Liberalism and Socialism destroyed Nationalism. There are no more opportunities, you need to find another alternative that still fits your ideology

2018-12-13 09:04:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

maybe i'm wrong though, but i do think this is a very obvious correlation

2018-12-13 09:05:47 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I don't think a country full of people with iphones and with normal wages who are brainwashed by liberalism and capitalism will acknowledge the fruits that can genuinely come from socialism @Xinyue also you can see this from the fact that when liberalism destroyed socialism, like a disease it infected socialism and turned it into a joke, one being "social democracy" and "democratic socialism" both being liberalised forms of true socialism, same for nationalism

2018-12-13 09:06:08 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

i mean modern socdem btw

2018-12-13 09:06:21 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

but... i don't think i was a fan of old socdem either in all honesty

2018-12-13 09:06:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

It was still liberal regardless

2018-12-13 09:06:36 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

liberal democracy gets you absolutely nowhere

2018-12-13 09:06:46 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@AdorableStormtrooper fascism is heavily socdem

2018-12-13 09:07:33 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

AI will certainly change the landscape and this is why i'm not a pessimist, Marx was right in assuming that the positive of Capitalism is the constant need to evolve and to enhance production, this will inevitably make humans obsolete

2018-12-13 09:07:34 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

HOWEVER

2018-12-13 09:07:41 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I think there is a huge argument to be had

2018-12-13 09:07:51 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

on what will be the consequence of having wage labour be obsolete and unnecessary

2018-12-13 09:07:58 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I don't think transhumanism is a postivie

2018-12-13 09:07:59 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

at all .

2018-12-13 09:08:15 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

^

2018-12-13 09:08:19 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

based

2018-12-13 09:08:26 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

respecc 2 u fam

2018-12-13 09:09:59 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Fascism is heavily socdem just under the system of a syndicalistic structure, and fascists who aren't socdem are the "capitalist fascists" and they're just a cancer to talk to, and fascists who identify as socialists are usually nazbols, i have no problem with "nazbols"

2018-12-13 09:10:11 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

corporatism/natsync isn't that unique

2018-12-13 09:10:26 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

^

2018-12-13 09:10:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

based

2018-12-13 09:10:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

af

2018-12-13 09:10:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  
2018-12-13 09:10:54 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

^

2018-12-13 09:12:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

the positive of fascism is that atleast most fascist nations, eventhough they support an extremely unsustainable system, they atleast push for natalism at all costs and for the growth of the population through natural but also nativistic means, Mussolini wasn't wrong in saying a larger population = wealthier nation state (China) but this doesn't mean anything in household income

2018-12-13 09:12:42 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

socdems just want everyone to immigrate to their country, it's fucking cancerous

2018-12-13 09:13:15 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

also why the fuck does Spain have the lowest family planning budget in all of Europe when we have the lowest birth rates and are now trying to get as many immigrants to do our jobs?

2018-12-13 09:13:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

yup, I think most people hate socdems

2018-12-13 09:13:41 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Japan tho....

2018-12-13 09:13:44 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Japan does it gucci...

2018-12-13 09:13:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Automate dat shit

2018-12-13 09:14:00 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

it's the economic basis of Fascism dude

2018-12-13 09:14:13 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

literally Mussolini's idea, and it's true

2018-12-13 09:14:25 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

a larger population will usually mean a wealthier nation-state

2018-12-13 09:14:27 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

kjust not for the people

2018-12-13 09:14:34 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@Xinyue it tries to, but fails

2018-12-13 09:14:53 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

nigga I see fascists calling themselves mercantilist

2018-12-13 09:14:55 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

it's gay af

2018-12-13 09:15:10 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

"I'm a mercantilist, but i'm an isolationist, i'm also le fash"

2018-12-13 09:15:18 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

lul

2018-12-13 09:15:35 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

never looked into Mosley, his economics were retarded af

2018-12-13 09:15:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

0% tax wtfrick!?

2018-12-13 09:15:54 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

only tax on luxuries?

2018-12-13 09:15:59 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

DUDE

2018-12-13 09:16:00 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

YES

2018-12-13 09:16:01 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

LOL

2018-12-13 09:16:04 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

it's what he's known for!

2018-12-13 09:17:15 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Fascism is just nationalism as an actual political doctrine, but people who follow fascism are very misguided because they view nationalism as patriotism for your people, all while nationalism is exactly what they WOULDN'T want since most fascists claim to love culture and want to protect it

2018-12-13 09:17:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

hot take

2018-12-13 09:17:32 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

nuclear hot take

2018-12-13 09:17:33 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

but it's true

2018-12-13 09:18:15 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

EU ain't fascist, but jesus christ I hate neolibtards who support the EU

2018-12-13 09:18:24 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

idk

2018-12-13 09:18:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

no?

2018-12-13 09:19:01 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Nationalism as an economic, political, and cultural doctrine

2018-12-13 09:19:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

nationalism has no economic part to it, or cultural, it's just structure

2018-12-13 09:19:43 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I've explained it before but just use Italy and France as an example before it become a singular nation state

2018-12-13 09:19:46 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

and now take Spain as reference

2018-12-13 09:19:50 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

with out regional problems

2018-12-13 09:19:56 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

because of our regional differences

2018-12-13 09:20:03 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

but our attempt at a unitary nation state

2018-12-13 09:20:13 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

also no, I don't like federations

2018-12-13 09:20:31 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

with OUR regional problems* sry

2018-12-13 09:20:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

and it became a singular nation state*

2018-12-13 09:21:55 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I think my problem with federations is the possibility of these separate states becoming jealous, or imperialistic and regionalist over others @Xinyue I don't know what to think of federalism yet

2018-12-13 09:22:37 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

yeah i think so

2018-12-13 09:23:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I think that there has to be some kind of alternative to federalism, or atleast a better application ofi t

2018-12-13 09:24:35 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

nigga take away the idea of nation from nationalism, it's nation-state

2018-12-13 09:24:37 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

not the same nigga

2018-12-13 09:25:24 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

^

2018-12-13 09:25:42 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

>Austromarxists developed this interesting idea of nation, in which they tried to realise a sort of Marxist nations without nationalism. Not sure what to think of it yet, but have you read of it?


No, also for a second read Astromarxist

2018-12-13 09:25:59 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

eventually

2018-12-13 09:26:01 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

๐Ÿ˜Ž

2018-12-13 09:26:20 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

no but i've never heard of a marxist rendition of nations, and without nationalism

2018-12-13 09:26:32 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

number of jupiter, it's a larp thing

2018-12-13 09:27:31 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

actually yeah, please do, I like my capitalism

2018-12-13 09:27:32 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

๐Ÿ˜Ž

2018-12-13 09:27:47 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I like my Android and my pringles fam

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