people still on?

itll be an interesting next few days to december 19

looks like one side of the aisle is gearing up to say trump is disqualified because the russians put him in power

who knows what the counter offensive is going to be

trumps team might not go the pedophile route yet

they have other things they can use, like the fact that they now have good evidence and expert witness testimony that hillarys team tried to rig the election

in at least wisconsin and michigan

nevada recount still going on

he has a bunch of military and intelligence people working with him so itll be interesting to see what happens for sure

the electors are what theyll target with this russian angle

they already have that "never trump" douche making the media rounds

the elector from texas

i think thats what the recounts were really for too, to tie up or eliminate all of those electors

but looks like thats not working either

yep

i just have some concern over the people who appointed these electors, because it appears state level parties were responsible

i just hope theyre mostly loyal, enough to get 270 anyway

yeah i hope it doesnt go that far. they said similar shit before the RNC convened but trump was able to get all the delegates he needed there

but if they do try to pull that stuff congress still has to rubber stamp the electoral college and maybe they wont do that, but i hope it doesnt come to that

lol

yeah i think thats always an option too, just the last one

theres no way the liberals could win a fair fight

theyd have to call in the UN or some bullshit, theyd have no chance

i live in a rural area. on election day my cousin was looking for a gun because he just got a job as a security guard. i stopped in a couple of gun shops and business was booming in both of them

somebody else was talking about this, what revolt would look like today. they were pointing out examples of things that have already happened, like crowds marching on wealthy peoples' private homes

we know a lot of names and a lot of addresses

and they surely realize that

yep, last option, but still an option

i hope thats all they can do lol

obama is still pres for now and congress still filled with douchebags. i hope all of the criminals pay dearly when trump gets in

make them an example to future generations of crooks

mccain and graham shouldnt even be in there

i started telling my buddies last fall that trump must have military backing to be doing what he was doing

now look at who all he's appointing to his cabinet

i dont see it happening. havent seen any indication of it and hes been talking about decentralizing things back to states rights

look at what else hes doing. appointing a guy who wants to abolish the fed. appointing a guy to demolish EPA regulations

those two things alone are going to free us from a lot of bureaucratic authoritarianism

if he can accomplish them

ending the fed is what got kennedy killed

well if hes going to try the opposite then hes putting the wrong people in there huh?

i dont expect it to be easy, just that hes still going in the right direction

full steam ahead on everything he was talking about and more

a lot of it depends on congress too

yeah he can at least do that much himself without congress

lol

i think thats what reince priebus was appointed for, but we'll see how well that goes

at least maybe by the next congressional election we'll just vote the obvious neocons out

like mccain and graham and ryan

maybe we wont have to wait that long and theyll just take them all down in scandals

graham already has pizzagate type dirt on him

i dont know about mccain and ryan except that theyre assholes

i was seeing pizzagate type stuff years ago, its not really anything new

you had reports first break in the 80s, that im aware of

then that bush white house documentary, call boys or whatever, around 1990

congressmen had that pulled before it aired on history channel

yeah but i dont know how willing theyll be to do that, especially the lindsay graham types who know its over for them

ten gunderson was talking about pedophilia rings around 2000

then andrew breitbart in 2011

so thats about 30 years of this stuff being somehwat covered already, even if not always in the MSM

theres a list of government officials on voat though who have been reported busted for all kinds of stuff related to children, they have 2 threads actually listing a lot of these people

state department seems to be one of the worst offenders in terms of keeping bad stuff on their computers

ted gunderson**

oh yeah itll look terrible

at least we wont be alone, already have the british embarrassed and the norwegians

and some others i forgot about already, its too much info for me to keep up with it

all the other western governments should really look into their own governments though because this stuff can happen anywhere and probably does happen in most countries, even if it isnt organized in some global network

theyve got a lot on voat

thats where theyve got lists of already convicted government officials

they had a dude last year, january 2015, head of cyber security for HHS i think it was, arrested not only for child porn but for telling some guy he wanted to rape and murder kids and wanted to meet up with the guy to actually do it

and not only did they bust him but the justice department put a whole article about it up on their own .gov website

these arent normal people

before this year id never even heard of the idea of people being like "ohh yeah man lets meet up and torture some kid, i love it"

shit is bizarre

id heard of pedophilia rings and all that, but not THAT level of shit

well yeah obviously im sure there are if the guy was convicted, you have to go to court for that

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-acting-hhs-cyber-security-director-sentenced-25-years-prison-engaging-child

"Through the website, DeFoggi accessed child pornography, solicited child pornography from other members, and exchanged private messages with other members in which he expressed an interest in the violent rape and murder of children. DeFoggi suggested meeting one member in person to fulfill their mutual fantasies to violently rape and murder children."

it makes it sound like the guy had kids ready to go or something

like yeah, just let me pull one of these kids out of my personal dungeon and ill be over in a sec so we can torture them

like wtf is going on

i just hope theyre able to do it in a way that doesnt collapse the whole gov like we were warned about

i dont know if you heard about FBI and NYPD guys allegedly leaking stuff from anthony weiner's laptop and elsewhere, but if doug hagman actually has at least a couple of photos from the dudes computer that he was given personally since hes a licensed investigator

yeah

theyd have to get them all at once, or try to

or at least in big blocks

if they arrested them one by one people would catch on too quick and probably be trying to get at them

not to mention theyd flee the country

i mean if doug hagman has the stuff then id say the leaks were definitely real

and doug showed a couple of the pics on the alex jones show

either way itll be interesting to see how it plays out because i have no doubt there are at least SOME good people in the FBI and other intel/police that want to see this done

alex jones is the guy who runs infowars, gets 40-85 million viewers a day now lol

hes about the biggest news online that i know of besides the drudge report and maybe one or two others

he gets about the same ratings as fox news

except hes loud and angry and a total conspiracy theorist lol

im surprised youve never heard of him

cnn and msnbc arent getting crap for ratings lately, theyre all in the toilet, around 1 million or something like that for cnn

alex jones has been around since the 90s but hes been pretty fringe until recent years

he started off with a radio show in texas

now hes got a net worth of about 8 million which is nothing considering how bad he smashes networks like cnn in the ratings, he just doesnt have the same corporate sponsors they do

yeah hes a 9/11 truther, so am i lol