Tariandude

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Taxation is theft the government shouldn't be involved in the economy or the loves of the individual the sole purpose of the state should be to protect its sovereignty nothing more nothing less

We need to get rid of welfare social security Medicare for all and get the government out if it adding more government to a provkrn the government started won't help if you want to end the cartel and problems in Mexico decriminalize all drugs educate people and keep the government out of it

Problem

The cartel will lose its power if we decriminalize the thing that gives it power which is the drug business

Just like in prohibition. Banning things don't work when humans want something they will find a way to get it and its not the governments place to tell people what they can and cannot do with there own bodies

How about we not invade everywhere killing thousands of people unnecessarily and and let the free market and capitalism create world peace

The most important right is the right to life

What about the insurgent groups that would spring up and make it another failed intervention or invasion like afganistan and Vietnam @Desmeon

That's a horrible idea to invade Iran we would win but just starting off would be difficult America thinks its technological advancements means it would when in every conflict but tests we have done shows that just blockading the Persian gulf would cost us 20000 us sailors as the would use suicide ships do you not care about human life at all @Desmeon

American foreign policy under both partys has been a complete disaster @Andrew_Hunter

We shouldn't be paying for anything taxtion is theft we spend more on Medicare and social security than we do on the military

We need to turn it over to the more efficient private industries without any government involvement

No body does it's not a right

No the opposite

Well the government makes it worse @Andrew_Hunter

And I'm a pretty radical libertarian @Desmeon if that let's you know where I stand

I'm sure the government is still some how involved in the market there to make it worse because taxing things makes prices hire

Higher

Hitler was nowhere near libertarian

Autoritarinism in any form doesn't work humans are to individualistic and always find a way humans can't be controlled or collectivized socially or economically

Isolationism and free trade let the world deal with it's own problems without us messing it up

I agree but let individuals do it and keep the government out of it and keep us out of world politics liberty and authoritarianism can't exist in the world without conflict and that's because we let the government take care of it

Yes exactly

I think we should only use the military in cases of direct threats of violence I completely understand taking out Osama bin laden he attacked us but after that we need to get out

When we intervene in the world we seem to be destabilizing it even more than when we first got involved

I don't like how much power the president has over the military like he can do things with it without congressional approval and that's horrifying he's not a king he's a "democratically" elected leader and I put quotations because we are a republic

Me and you both then again we need a whole reset on government and get these lifetime career politicians out as they've become corrupt

Just everyone we've stayed so far from the constitution the very document that makes this country stand above the others in liberty. It's no longer used to limit government only the people it was supposed to keep from autoritarinism and tyranny

Oh most definitely I think libertarians such as myself should be far more represented as there are more of us it irritates me when either party thinks there entitled my vote

Completely failing they give then lip service then completely turn there back and continue to divide is further

The media dosing help

Doesn't

We don't have good journalism anymore

Libertarians arnt even allowed to the debates

It scares then what people think that's not in there line if view

I think so to I think every ideology should be able to Express itself in the free market of ideas

That's true but the two party system prevents it and it really has to end

The don't censor it but they don't let it be heard often

We don't agree on everything but we don't hate each other and we are having a civil conversation unlike how they conduct the debates

I wants Alive for that dude

That is true it does need more and oh okay I see and better moderators

I was born in 2000

I'm horrified by the amount if autoritarinism that's becoming out of the Democrats

True but also for the right @beyond_gravity

Oh yes its really hard to get an incumbent president out

When elections become rigged that's when a governments way has been totally lost and it's up the people to do something

Our entire government is that @beyond_gravity

Well has definatku not as Christian as all these evangelicals believe

Definitely

How about neither we the people need to do something

Just how is the question

Well a two party system makes it worse and limits our options

And yes rand is the closest to a Republican I would vote

Rands dad was even better though

I think we need to do voting where you can vote for multiple candidates in which order you would like then and if you don't want a particular one you wouldn't have to even vote for then

Yes electoral college but more representative

And yes I am

No super candidates

It helps represent people without mainstream views more than our current system

Provably Republican Democrat libertarian and the greens

The Republicans will always have the evangelicals

That's true

Well libertarians are very socially liberal and very economically conservative which is why both parties feel they are entitled to my bloody vote

Libertarians are very split on abortion

My opinion on what abortion ?

Well on a moral level I don't agree with it but as long as I'm not paying for it I don't care its you're body you're conscious

You have to live with the decision

If I'm not paying for it it's not my business

That exactly what I think as long as my tax dollars don't pay for it it's not my business

Obviously you can't get one at 9 months

True but I didn't clarify my own position enough

At the same time it's that companies right the free market is capable of making other companies that have free speech as a core value

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