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i explained to you how it doesnt
and u just skip over it
at this point i may just block you again for not being able to read, you sent a article that disagrees with your position, i sent you graphs u choose to ignore. at this point your anti intellectual
btw your article is blocked behind a pay wall
good debate tactics btw
LOL
YOUR ARTICLE LITTERLY DISAGREES WITH YOU IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH,AGAIN YOUR BASING IT OF 2018 TO 2019, more recent graphs show its not working, and AGAIN YOU HAVE NOT SHOWN HOW THE DEBT WOULD LEAD TO A COLLAPSE OF THE DOLLAR INDEX
you have pivoted to a monetary debate over the deficit to talk about a conservative talking point on how we must bring jobs back
AGAIN I EXPLAINED THE DEFICIT/ DEBT WOULD NOT CAUSE A COLLAPSE OF THE DOLLAR INDEX
you just dont understand your own argument
in order for trade to collapse(assuming its not like ww3) you would need a dollar collapse. People like petter schiff talk about it all the time
and they are wrong
and have been
yes you now pivoted to the us is reliant on global trade
but have no explained how having a large debt would collapse that
i mean dude you pivot around, you link petter sciff gold, you refuse to read my reports/studies, you make me repeat things 10 times, you act like i didnt say real recources is a constraint. At this point i think your a troll. You are either making the argument we must get off global trade, or we must stop deficit spending to maintain the dollar and not risk a collapse. Both of which i addressed. "bringing back these jobs" would lead to massive inflation and a depression. You would still have to deal with other countries(because china is not the one giving us imports). As for dollar index situation i already explained it you just cant seem to read basic english.
again which argumenta re you making, because this was a monetary discussion at first. That is what sciff gold was alluding to
is it the first one or the second
would the deficit cause a dollar collapse, or we should get off global trade to secure america
awsner
awsner
awsner the question, are you making the argument running a deficit and being on a fiat system would collapse the us dollar leading to a collapse of us trade, or we should just not rely on other countries "because it is not safe"
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again this debate was a monetary one, you first linked a article to sciff gold, which all the guy talks about is monetary
you cant say yes to a question asking about 2 things
is it the first or the seonc
secondf
give me a number
1 or 2
IS IT 1 OR 2
which argument are u making
is it 1 or 2
tell me
ok do u admit to pivoting then? because if you remember sciff gold was talking about the first one.
the argument was about the debt and deficit
if you want to talk about sovreighnty in production we can
THIS ARTICLE IS TALKING ABOUT A DOLLAR COLLAPSE BASED ON OUR FIAT SYSTEM
why would you link this and then say im not talking about monetary policy
why would u say things like the us outscources money
so you linked a article making a point your not making?
why would u do that
?
https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/yale-economist-warns-of-dollar-crash/ THIS ARTICLE IS MOSTLY ABOUT THE DOLLAR INDEX COLLAPSING BASED ON LARGE DEFICITS
WE JUST WENT OVER YOU ARE NOT MAKING THIS ARGUMENT
What has enabled this over the years has been the worldโs willingness to hold US dollars as the primary reserve currency and to continue to loan money to Americans and to the US government so we can continue to live beyond our means. We can have enormous government programs that we donโt pay for and we can consume all kinds of goods that we donโt manufacture, and we can live in an economy based on consumption and debt without having to save or produce. The world has done that for us. And I think this is whatโs going to come to an end. I think weโre going to see a collapse in the value of the dollar, and when the dollar does collapse, Americaโs power is going to dissipate. And Americans are going to have to deal with the reality that weโve hollowed out our infrastructure; weโve been living beyond our means. And thereโs going to be a day of reckoning for these years of excesses.โ
this is from there
ok i know your argument now, just remember thisis a pivot, you linked a article and said the us cant continue to export money. when you link a article that is saying the dollar will collapse because of large deficits, i get the idea that is the argument you are making.
want to get in vc?
WHAT
AGAIN
YOU JUST WENT OVER YOU ARE NOT SAYING THE DOLLAR WILL COLLAPSE BECAUSE OF LARGE DEFICIT SPENDING
its impossible
for that to happen
ok dude
if you said that then i have been adressing your point
in order for there to be a collapse of manufacturing there would be a collapse of the dollar index. Like i already said there is no direct 1:1 causation of large deficits a decrease in the dollar index. Again i ask why can japan have a almost double deficit ratio then us but have lower inflation. As for manufacturing(which is real recources) i already stated i agree. that is the constraint of the deficit. MMT agrees i talk about it here
AGAIN
WHAT ARGUMENT ARE YOU MAKING
I ASKED IF YOU THINK DEFICITS WOULD CAUSE A DOLLAR INDEX, YOU SAID NO FIRST NOW YOU SAY YES
awsner the question, are you making the argument running a deficit and being on a fiat system would collapse the us dollar leading to a collapse of us trade, or we should just not rely on other countries "because it is not safe"
[6:08 AM]
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ok so we are talking monetary policy?
fiscall aswell now
again
awsner the question, are you making the argument running a deficit and being on a fiat system would collapse the us dollar leading to a collapse of us trade, or we should just not rely on other countries "because it is not safe"
[6:08 AM]
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which one are u making
1 or 2
i have my clock set to a different time
again i ask awsner the question, are you making the argument running a deficit and being on a fiat system would collapse the us dollar leading to a collapse of us trade, or we should just not rely on other countries "because it is not safe"
[6:08 AM]
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YES THEN YOU RETRACTED IT
again get in vc if u want
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
awsner
i already addressed how not being on this would collapse the us economy and cause hyper inflation
awsner
no its not
money is credits
it takes nothing to produce
there is a constraint
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
AWSNER
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
awsner
i will not continue unless you awsner
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
yes or no
awsner the question
arnold, i will ask you this for the last time, do u think running a large deficit and being on a fiat system would cause a dollar collapse?
im not backpeddling you just have no idea how to structure a argument, i already adressed your point, there are many nations to trade from. Getting off this trade system would mean a collapse of the us economy and hyper inflation
you just cant read
i already explained how running a deficit like we do now and being on a fiat system would not collapse the us dollar(assuming we are following real recources), you linked a article making this point
both of these arguments you could make i already debunked
you cant link a article soley based on saying DEFICITS ARE INHERENTLY BAD AND BEING ON A FIAT SYSTEM IS BAD AND IT WILL COLLAPSE THE US DOLLAR then say oh that is not my argument. Unless you admit to pivoting
again I ALREADY ADRESSED HOW THIS WOULD NOT BE A MONETARY PROBLEM, I ALREADY STATED THAT GETTING OF THIS TRADE SYSTEM YOU HATE WOULD CAUSE HYPER INFLAITON AND A MASSIVE DEPRESSION.
i adressed both sides of the argument
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