tardigrade

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2019-12-11 23:06:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Hi.

2019-12-11 23:07:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ty for the link.awesome.

2019-12-11 23:07:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

(Will read only in the first time here.)

2019-12-13 12:11:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

rise

2020-03-22 00:50:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

try to draw the stellar constellations and compare these drawings to those you (or a friend) makes on the southern hemisphere. Then compare both to the drawings you can make in equatorial regions.

2020-03-22 00:51:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

just make that experiment. it is the scientific method. watch and make observations, then make your own theories, and compare the theories to new experiments & observations.

2020-03-22 00:52:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

the night sky (without clouds)

2020-03-22 00:52:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

only use eyes, you dont even need binoculars.

2020-03-22 00:52:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yeah

2020-03-22 00:53:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

no hypothesis. just draw what you can see, and then travel, make the same drawings and then compare both.

2020-03-22 00:53:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

or ask a friend in these regions to make the drawings

2020-03-22 00:53:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

science starts with observation.

2020-03-22 00:54:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

always.

2020-03-22 00:55:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The goal is of course to understand how the stellar constellations are connected, and what their form is.

2020-03-22 00:55:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

to make a hypothesis, you need to first make your observations.

2020-03-22 00:56:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yes.

2020-03-22 00:57:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

To make any hypothesis, you need data first.

2020-03-22 00:58:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Of course you can start with a hypothesis, but i proposed it this way, so that your experiment is unbiased.

2020-03-22 00:58:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

(like a randomized study)

2020-03-22 00:58:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

as i said.

2020-03-22 00:59:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

the experiment is the step after you formed your hypothesis (after you made the initial observation).

2020-03-22 00:59:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

i agree.

2020-03-22 01:00:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

but you need a complete observation to formulate your hypothesis correctly.

2020-03-22 01:00:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

not just partial data

2020-03-22 01:01:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

or, several data points.

2020-03-22 01:01:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

if you have 3 points of observation, you should be able to make a pretty accurate model

2020-03-22 01:02:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

you need to view it from different.... angles

2020-03-22 01:03:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

ok , 2 observations could be enough to formulate a crude hypothesis

2020-03-22 01:03:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

one from north, one from south

2020-03-22 01:04:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

the problem here is, you dont make *any* assumptions before your observations, so you have to check if the hypothesis could be refuted, by making a second observation, from a different place

2020-03-22 01:05:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

ok, lets assume you would make the hypothesis that earth is flat, after you make the first observation of the star sky. you now want to check if that hypothesis is true or false? what would you propose to check it?

2020-03-22 01:07:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Science tries to research the form of things, not only how they work.

2020-03-22 01:08:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So how would you prove your hypothesis, that earth is flat?

2020-03-22 01:08:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And how would it be refuted?

2020-03-22 01:08:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

a proof would be if the star sky is also flat.

2020-03-22 01:09:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

that means, constellations would look the same from any location on earth.

2020-03-22 01:20:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How do you explain that airplanes need (roughly) the same time to fly australia_africa and south-east-asia_north-america?

2020-03-22 01:21:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  
2020-03-22 01:21:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

(the question is for him)

2020-03-22 01:22:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

(i'm on your side, refuel meee)

2020-03-22 01:24:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do you mute everyone who refutes flat earth? ^^

2020-03-22 01:25:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Btw. the tides also prove that gravity exists.

2020-03-22 01:26:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If there was no gravity, the moon would leave its orbit.

2020-03-22 01:26:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

and also we would float into the air

2020-03-22 01:27:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ok. How have you been convinced that earth is flat?

2020-03-22 01:28:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

the heliocentric model is not 100% correct, because the sun is not at the center of the universe.

2020-03-22 01:28:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

it is only the center of our solar system.

2020-03-22 01:28:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

not

2020-03-22 01:29:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So have you made the observations? And what did you see.

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