i have for 6 years

my conlusion is: fuck the noise

god doesnt exist imo

he hasnt helped me anyone

ive seen Christians on crack and heroin.

Well my sister died when she was 9

so i have pretty good reason not to believe

'the roman catholic church doesn't follow chalcedonian rules on frescography'

What the fuck is that

what do you waste your time with

i believe you

i dont care what it is

and i dont even care to translate it to german so i could know what it is

okay mister im a perfect fucking unicorn

God, christians are whacky

@Gothik Extravaganza hey

what are your views?

i used to be a baptist, but now I'd call myself an atheist

hmm, I've never really agreed with the Mormon narrative.

I believe the Protestant narrative is closest to Scripture

I have, I studied Bible quite a bit in school.

I went to a school where Bible was taught.

so i gave read a bit

no worries it's been a while but I believe we studied Mormonism as well

I'm not familiar with all of Mormonism's interpretations, mind refreshing me?

I believe Protestantism was more of a returning to roots

after people got fed up with the corrupt Catholic church that is

hmm not exactly

the Catholic church was wrong, and there were protestant sentiments through out it's reign.

but the Protestant reformation was more of a tipping point

the idea of purgatory, is very unbiblical

which is a big teaching in the Catholic church

also if you would be so kindly to refresh me on the Mormon view of marriage?

okay

ok so it does allow polygamy

I guess that is another thing I don't agree with

O discord is lagging alot rn

ok now its fine

ok anyway

so you do not still condone it correct?

I'm not talking about the church I am talking about you individually

wait hold on let me check something

Revelations 22:18–19

" warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll."

I believe this goes against the adding of the written works of Joseph Smith to the Bible

how so

wait I guess I am confused to what you are calling silly

all of the books in the NT were written by someone who was around when Jesus was alive and was a first hand witness, or by someone who ahs been guided by said witness

Joseph Smith was neither

even if he did meet Jesus once, he was not around at the crucifixion nor was he one of the disciples

but they were not disciples that were close to him

nor was he in direct contact with someone that was

even if you meet Jesus once that does not give you the right to add to the Bible

else that would mean the pharisees or the doubters who met him and did not believe can add to it

Jesus Christ stopped living an earthly life LONG before Joseph Smith

I believe there is a God, and and believe Jesus died and rose again, however there are things in my personal life I struggle with.

it is much more complicated than what you think

now I believe it is your turn for a rebuttal

and if he came to see Joseph Smith that would be the second coming, no? so then why did none of the other events prophesized to happen along with the second coming never happen?

as I said it is more complicated, and so far you have not put up an ACTUAL rebuttal

all you have done is tried to derail

people are more complicated than that

and we already settled this

move onto the points I presented

stop deraling

@Gothik Extravaganza "Jesus Christ stopped living an earthly life LONG before Joseph Smith
and if he came to see Joseph Smith that would be the second coming, no? so then why did none of the other events prophesized to happen along with the second coming never happen?"

@Gothik Extravaganza he was baptised and rose to heaven after he rose from the dead

now as for these "claims" they are false and unbiblical, as when Christ comes again, rapture happens, he doesn't just pop in and say "hi" every once in a while

and it is easy to claim that you were visited

while we have thousands of claims and a report by a Roman historian that he lived again after his death, yet no records to this scale exist for anything after

@lemiwinks yes through the Holy Spirit

He does not come down in human form

as that would be a contradiction

as I said the Holy Spirit does all the communicating

@Gothik Extravaganza i have

like I said I studied Mormonism in school

now ofc this was a baptist school so we were taught rebuttals

however we studied the base doctrine

and then used Scripture to then debunk said doctrine

how so, you believe the doctrine of Joseph Smith and read the book of **Mormon** right?

and you have not debunked that "cheese"

so far you have just dismissed it

I have seen no proof that Revelations is lying

and you except Revelations correct?

so therefore you have a contradiction in your faith

@lemiwinks show proof please

so is proof not important?

you can't just say he appeared without proof

and there will always be false ones.

ok so then I saw Jesus an hour ago and he said you were wrong. proof? nah just have fatith

there is so much wrong with that

as Christians we must find proof for our beliefs

this is why we are laughed at

than we view it differently

no because they are unbiblical, they do not follow the doctrine of the Bible, as like I said, if he appeared again in the flesh, then why did nothing that was prophesized to happen with that ever happen?

if he appeared again for a second time we should all be raptured, no?

mormonism

idfk read

@lemiwinks how so, I believe that Jesus has not appeared in human form since he rose to heaven again, yes he may appear through the Holy Spirit, but he never does so in human form.

if he just appears in human form again and again then the idea of the Holy Spirit is redundant