@Eoppa There is something deeply unsettling about seeing a christian argue that God isn't the first cause of all things

You said that humans maintain causal power that is not determined by God

:/

It's what it reads like

I didst

No I did

That's hardly a way to educate oneself

But you maintain that God does not cause the things that humans cause by their free will?

But you also maintain that God is the cause of all things because God caused free will?

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seems weak

Also I hate when you mention the names of all those big shot philosophers because I have no idea what they said

Even if I've read some of them

> I don't think so
@Eoppa That's *confirmation bias* <:smug:591181720565579807>

So we have free will but we are in a rat maze and it's certain that we'll follow the cheese?

Cool explanation, it has the advantage of explaining free will and the "disadvantage" of keeping the deathly dread of determinism

@Florida Man Not completely tho

Good luck ignoring everyone's positions and then wondering why they all think you're wrong

I still think my original explanation is extremely cool

They also had some gods all of their own

Like Bellona isn't anywhere in the Greek pantheon

They don't invoke Mars = Ares as the god of war, they invoke Jupiter = Zeus. That's because Mars for them is more like a defensive patron-war god of Rome.

*what pressure*

You literally denied him his frustration and called him a faggot

Frustration is a position

What's your definition?

look at him get butthurt over strangers on the internet

If he was complaining about getting frustrated about socialists being dumb you wouldn't be reacting like this

Because your emotional state is now being influenced by *a stranger on the internet*

Frustration isn't a position, the fact that fascists are dumb is

Yelling at him means that you have some emotional investment in this

Otherwise you would not care

Yeah of course you can't yell with words on a screen

Are you being intentionally stupid?

You are accomplishing nothing by insulting him and then you act like it's some big achievement to be so above his faggotry

Is it acceptable for your definition that the source of the free will is not caused, but is the cause? Because my definition of what a subject is is basically the sum total of causes that ultimately cause action to be taken

"im too smart lel" - Shaun

nice embed retard

Power of autism

That's what Eoppa said referring to Molinism I think

Mithraism was the way to go for Constantine, he fell for the Death and Resurrection meme smh

ughh

I am ragequitting this conversation

Shaun is a beak headed virgin with a swastika up his ass

This is what lack of moderation does to a chat

that's volcel you absolute blackhole brain manlet

volcel

voluntary involuntarily celibate

999999999999 iq

big nose tribe

Or maybe it was the brits that did those things

Jews orchestrated the holocaust, I mean the actual holocaust not the holohoax, the holocaust actually happened and it was jewish autogenocide

suigenocide

genosuicide

Oh whoops a nazi

THAT'S AN AD HOMINEM OFFENCE YOU ARE BANNED FOR 3 DAYS

it was actually 12 billion

shut up volcel

69 quadrillion jews

420 septillion

14,88 undecillion

as many jews as there are sand specks on a beach

As many jews as there are electrons in the universe

As many jews as the inches of black cock in the whole of africa

nice embed retard

shut up fritz

alcohol is a tool of me to forget my shit life

I am Jew

Therefore I am dead

Only the smelly ones are Jews

What is the fucking definition of a jews

How do you define a jew

Pretty hard to say all of eastern europe is ashkenazi fam

Jews are friends

Jews invented the pepe

kike the gasses

Anime Israel

Geometrically

How tf do you change genetics

Fucking jimmy neutron

And maaaaaaany other factors

Like mutagens, random mutations, splicing during mitosis or meiosis

I am Jew

That's Thuringia

Borger

borgar

burgrer

burger

Nation of beef

One nation, under the grill, with mustard and ketchup for all

Imagine reciting the pledge of allegiance lol

America be like "children we need you to swear you won't be terrorists in the future"

haha circle kike haha get it

cuz kike means circle

no I'M a jew

the land of Zion is everywhere

We are all Jews

rejoice

Lechaim etc.

I call myself a man even though I'm a fucking gay faggot