Saul
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out of 3.4 million votes
UKIP may if it rebrands
TBP will only if we dont leave
and even then they'll not really get many seats
the current party won't no
UKIP isn't on the offensive, we need to restructure and rebuild the party
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM that is an insanely long list..
>tfw TBP came 4th in it's only local election
dont fool yourself jack
Borris will kill TBP
TBP is and always has been tory pressure release valve
MRLP are actually pro-brexit as well
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM im not typing out a full manifesto, but:
โขFreedom & liberty
โขEconomic revival (ie: lower taxes, better monetary flow & aiming for Negative inflation)
โขCapped migration limits with entry based on merit and sponsorship (as for most other countries)
โขGrants for small and medium sized British businesses and growth of nuclear fission and fusion (research at the moment)
โขAim for self-sufficiency by 2040 (agricultural/food, energy/water & most raw materials)
these are just things i want to achieve
cant think well because of nightclub blasting bass atm and testing audio..
cant wait to move
@Spooky Melon Assault TV tray!
i saw that last year on Donut Op's channel lol
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM
โขRebuild branch structure
โขGrow membership so we can actually field candidates in local and county elections (and parish council elections)
โขAim to regain donors and get peopel standing in Parliamentary elections
โขBring the party away from hyper-partisan boomers and bring nuance back to it, and developing a decent manifesto
โขReaching out to islamic moderates to tackle the issues coming from the islamic community and stop the morons demonising the entire group of people (muslims) as a giant boegeyman.
the association with TR and Sargon not keeping a clean record during election are what helped push the party to where it is now
it's Batten's fault for that
he's a nice bloke but made bad decisions
and the "but he didn't get allowed to stand!!! anti-democratic"
he didn't turnup to vetting
now the hyper-partisan morons will push out moderates and hardworking people (like Eric Jothy) and potentially destroy the party
UKIP is likely to have an internal civil war
@JackH670 the party structure
we still have councillors too
more than TBP can say for domestic politics
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM the goal of restructuring is to save the party so we have a platform to build policy on and do activism from
we can't stay as a BS street protest movement
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM UKIP will always be a english liberal party at the core of it
with a christian conservative side as well...
you're asking me about idealogy now
without a party structure, without members and without organisation you got shit
we've already made choices, in the last year batten made some wrong ones, a lot of people disagree with that and hopefully we'll move to a civic nationalist route as opposed to "muh islam is bad, deport tha mussies!"
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM as high as possible, im not going to place an arbitrary limit on something
im not a fortune teller either
i can't predict the future
mouthpiece is probably wrong term to use? and no lol
UKIP are populist yes, but we need to appeal to the general public
not one group or the other
you need to appeal to a broad range of groups
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM "WiLl yOu aPpEaL tO jOcKs Or NeRdS?!"
im convinced you're just talking shit tbh
@JackH670 i know right ๐ LOL
UKIP are a centre party
and no shit why do you think i mentioned local elections and parish council elections lol
you build you base there
it's why Lib Dems always have voters
im done, im not going in circles
Games everyone should play:
โขDeus Ex
โขRed Faction
โขTime Splitters 2
โขCommand and Conquer Tiberian Sun
โขHalo: Combat Evolved
that you're not an epic gamer
push someone close enough to the edge and eventually they'll fall off
>inb4 more of the pre-crime Minority Report type of shit we've been seeing recently happens
@Coolitic people dont need to be alive to get notoriety
Columbine proves that
understanding WHY mass shooters do what they do is necessary so you can fix underlying fundamental problems that generate these people
@ManAnimal not really, it's a very complex issue with many facets to it, there's no one direct cause, and it'd be good if you could describe this "information"..that seems nebulous
i have a rough idea what the issue is, but i dont claim to be an expert and dont work in absolutes like most people on this server
armchair experts..
hahahahahaah
you're an expert of absolutely nothing
i can't fix it because i dont have a political position in the US
and most likely, you dont either
polarisation of society doesn't help matters, but one shooter doesn't kill people for the same reason another does
you're strawmanning to shit
you seem to think you know what i think..lol
but you haven't a clue
because i dont care about your opinion, opinions dont fix problems..solutions do
no i dont
nice strawman
"no u"....grow up ๐
i never told you shit
so you can tell me exactly why EVERY mass shooter commits the act they do?
and it's the same in every single situation?
well no, that's what you seem to be claiming
enlighten me
oh masterful boomer
@Coolitic share the wealth
"get your own popcorn cunt"
the causes of that nihilism is multi-faceted though, as i already mentioned. peopel don't fall into that "fuck it, my life is hopeless anyway" pit of dispair for the same reason
but you skipped over that, despite me coming from a rather humble position
non-punitive intervention is typically a better go to then just throwing someone in prison, a mental asylum or killing them
it's not going to work for everyone, there is no fix all solution
non-punitive solutions could be as benign as JBP and people like that reaching out to young men
or direct councelling sessions
i'd rather avoid larger prison numbers or a body count if possible
oy vey gevalt
@ManAnimal no, it's fundamental problems in society...indirect causes if you will
and you've already touched on a few
well, no..i'd rather avoid it if possible..in some cases it wont be possible
it's not femanine..it's utilitarian and pragmatic
Voluntary Voting system, earning the right to vote under a system whereby non-voters are still protected by a constitution (unchangable) and allowed to act freely within scope of that constitution.
Civil service or military service for example
yea i just wanted to post it, it was in copy and paste buffer
but it's a good direction to take society
butch lesbians just molest women because no man wants them
it's why they're perpetually angry and beat their "girlfriends"
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