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out of 3.4 million votes

UKIP may if it rebrands

TBP will only if we dont leave

and even then they'll not really get many seats

the current party won't no

UKIP isn't on the offensive, we need to restructure and rebuild the party

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM that is an insanely long list..

>tfw TBP came 4th in it's only local election

dont fool yourself jack

Borris will kill TBP

TBP is and always has been tory pressure release valve

MRLP are actually pro-brexit as well

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM im not typing out a full manifesto, but:

โ€ขFreedom & liberty
โ€ขEconomic revival (ie: lower taxes, better monetary flow & aiming for Negative inflation)
โ€ขCapped migration limits with entry based on merit and sponsorship (as for most other countries)
โ€ขGrants for small and medium sized British businesses and growth of nuclear fission and fusion (research at the moment)
โ€ขAim for self-sufficiency by 2040 (agricultural/food, energy/water & most raw materials)

these are just things i want to achieve

cant think well because of nightclub blasting bass atm and testing audio..

cant wait to move

@Spooky Melon Assault TV tray!

i saw that last year on Donut Op's channel lol

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM

โ€ขRebuild branch structure
โ€ขGrow membership so we can actually field candidates in local and county elections (and parish council elections)
โ€ขAim to regain donors and get peopel standing in Parliamentary elections
โ€ขBring the party away from hyper-partisan boomers and bring nuance back to it, and developing a decent manifesto
โ€ขReaching out to islamic moderates to tackle the issues coming from the islamic community and stop the morons demonising the entire group of people (muslims) as a giant boegeyman.

the association with TR and Sargon not keeping a clean record during election are what helped push the party to where it is now

it's Batten's fault for that

he's a nice bloke but made bad decisions

and the "but he didn't get allowed to stand!!! anti-democratic"

he didn't turnup to vetting

now the hyper-partisan morons will push out moderates and hardworking people (like Eric Jothy) and potentially destroy the party

UKIP is likely to have an internal civil war

@JackH670 the party structure

we still have councillors too

more than TBP can say for domestic politics

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM the goal of restructuring is to save the party so we have a platform to build policy on and do activism from

we can't stay as a BS street protest movement

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM UKIP will always be a english liberal party at the core of it

with a christian conservative side as well...

you're asking me about idealogy now

without a party structure, without members and without organisation you got shit

we've already made choices, in the last year batten made some wrong ones, a lot of people disagree with that and hopefully we'll move to a civic nationalist route as opposed to "muh islam is bad, deport tha mussies!"

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM as high as possible, im not going to place an arbitrary limit on something

im not a fortune teller either

i can't predict the future

mouthpiece is probably wrong term to use? and no lol

UKIP are populist yes, but we need to appeal to the general public

not one group or the other

you need to appeal to a broad range of groups

@Tonight at 11 - DOOM "WiLl yOu aPpEaL tO jOcKs Or NeRdS?!"

im convinced you're just talking shit tbh

@JackH670 i know right ๐Ÿ˜‚ LOL

UKIP are a centre party

and no shit why do you think i mentioned local elections and parish council elections lol

you build you base there

it's why Lib Dems always have voters

im done, im not going in circles

Games everyone should play:
โ€ขDeus Ex
โ€ขRed Faction
โ€ขTime Splitters 2
โ€ขCommand and Conquer Tiberian Sun
โ€ขHalo: Combat Evolved

that you're not an epic gamer

push someone close enough to the edge and eventually they'll fall off

>inb4 more of the pre-crime Minority Report type of shit we've been seeing recently happens

@Coolitic people dont need to be alive to get notoriety

Columbine proves that

understanding WHY mass shooters do what they do is necessary so you can fix underlying fundamental problems that generate these people

@ManAnimal not really, it's a very complex issue with many facets to it, there's no one direct cause, and it'd be good if you could describe this "information"..that seems nebulous

i have a rough idea what the issue is, but i dont claim to be an expert and dont work in absolutes like most people on this server

armchair experts..

hahahahahaah

you're an expert of absolutely nothing

i can't fix it because i dont have a political position in the US

and most likely, you dont either

polarisation of society doesn't help matters, but one shooter doesn't kill people for the same reason another does

you're strawmanning to shit

you seem to think you know what i think..lol

but you haven't a clue

because i dont care about your opinion, opinions dont fix problems..solutions do

no i dont

nice strawman

"no u"....grow up ๐Ÿ˜„

i never told you shit

so you can tell me exactly why EVERY mass shooter commits the act they do?

and it's the same in every single situation?

well no, that's what you seem to be claiming

enlighten me

oh masterful boomer

@Coolitic share the wealth

"get your own popcorn cunt"

the causes of that nihilism is multi-faceted though, as i already mentioned. peopel don't fall into that "fuck it, my life is hopeless anyway" pit of dispair for the same reason

but you skipped over that, despite me coming from a rather humble position

non-punitive intervention is typically a better go to then just throwing someone in prison, a mental asylum or killing them

it's not going to work for everyone, there is no fix all solution

non-punitive solutions could be as benign as JBP and people like that reaching out to young men

or direct councelling sessions

i'd rather avoid larger prison numbers or a body count if possible

oy vey gevalt

@ManAnimal no, it's fundamental problems in society...indirect causes if you will

and you've already touched on a few

well, no..i'd rather avoid it if possible..in some cases it wont be possible

it's not femanine..it's utilitarian and pragmatic

Voluntary Voting system, earning the right to vote under a system whereby non-voters are still protected by a constitution (unchangable) and allowed to act freely within scope of that constitution.

Civil service or military service for example

yea i just wanted to post it, it was in copy and paste buffer

but it's a good direction to take society

butch lesbians just molest women because no man wants them

it's why they're perpetually angry and beat their "girlfriends"

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