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2019-04-09 00:48:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

A replublix is a democracy..

2019-04-09 00:56:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Shameful

2019-04-09 00:56:12 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Shame!

2019-04-09 00:56:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Wait, do you live in Wales?

2019-04-09 01:04:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

He wouldn't do it

2019-04-09 01:08:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

He's worn a suit, you need not dream lol

2019-04-09 01:09:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

See his ukip speeches, he wears a suit lol

2019-04-09 01:10:34 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Ondsinet night night honey bunny

2019-04-09 01:14:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User don't get tetchy on me

2019-04-09 01:15:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You're my boyfriend now

2019-04-09 01:17:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yes lets

2019-04-09 01:21:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They have no self awareness

2019-04-09 01:46:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Which problem is this solving?

2019-04-09 01:47:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

A corpocracy?

2019-04-09 01:50:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Doesn't sound much different to now, just with different titles.

2019-04-09 01:51:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So, a CEO is president, the Senate, board of directors?

2019-04-09 01:51:53 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Don't directors vote for their CEO?

2019-04-09 01:55:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

How does this hyper corporation make money?

2019-04-09 01:56:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I assume taxes would be replaced with some form of profit

2019-04-09 01:59:23 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If all citizens are shareholders, then all businesses would be subsidiaries to the nation

2019-04-09 02:00:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Giving the government control over the economy and dictating the means of production

2019-04-09 02:02:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Well you've been explaining the political side, what about the exonomical side?

2019-04-09 02:04:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So when you buy something, you are trading your shares?

2019-04-09 02:05:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But the richer you get the more shares you have, and that can snowball until you are at the top 1%

2019-04-09 02:06:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

How are the trusties chosen?

2019-04-09 02:09:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I see, so at it's foundation it's a meritocracy, with a corpocracy built on top

2019-04-09 02:10:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Problem there is meritocraciea can result in entrenchment, so how is it regulated to prevent that?

2019-04-09 02:10:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yes

2019-04-09 02:10:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's when those with merit stop selecting meritable people in favour of their own families

2019-04-09 02:13:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You can easily have an aristocracy of half a million people. That's out of 300 million.

2019-04-09 02:15:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'm not familiar with that term. I'm saying that these trustees presumably select their members, so why would they not choose friends and family first?

2019-04-09 02:16:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

20 trustees?

2019-04-09 02:17:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I see that, but how do you become a trustee?

2019-04-09 02:17:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Who chooses the trustees

2019-04-09 02:18:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So the 500k trustees selects the 20 directors, and the directors select the trustees?

2019-04-09 02:20:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

:/ I'm not seeing this, it's very confusing. But what I can see is that it isn't representative of the population, and that leads to corruption.

2019-04-09 02:21:08 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Then it's an aristocracy right from the start lol

2019-04-09 02:22:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Soooo, China?

2019-04-09 02:23:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The trustees ARE the aristocracy, they are the nobility, and eventually they will become entrentched

2019-04-09 02:23:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Not immedoatwly

2019-04-09 02:26:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You're thinking starship troopers, service guarantees citizenship

2019-04-09 02:28:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

In that case, there a risk of a shadow council forming.

2019-04-09 02:28:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's so easily corrupted lol

2019-04-09 02:29:34 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It means a council working behind the scenes making the decisions while the government is a front

2019-04-09 02:29:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Whoever selects the trustees is in power

2019-04-09 02:30:08 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Whoever is selected by the trustees are suseptable to corruption

2019-04-09 02:31:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The selection of the trustees needs to be transparent

2019-04-09 02:32:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But you become a trustee, how?

2019-04-09 02:34:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Civil servants?

2019-04-09 02:35:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Then these people work for private firns?

2019-04-09 02:35:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The pilots

2019-04-09 02:36:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Ok, so select occupations grant you the chance to be a trustee

2019-04-09 02:37:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Why not?

2019-04-09 02:39:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's just like starship troopers, it's not a bad sounding system. Where I'm puzzled is how that's compatible with a corpocracy

2019-04-09 02:40:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Why not have that system, but retain the current form of government?

2019-04-09 02:42:57 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But without a civil service, how does the government function? Who implements policy?

2019-04-09 02:44:05 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's just anaecho capitalism

2019-04-09 02:45:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Lol, you've just relabeled the cival service as company employees

2019-04-09 02:45:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So, pure capitalism?

2019-04-09 02:46:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Bit like rapture in bioshock

2019-04-09 02:47:35 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I recall a debate Sargon had with someone proposing something very similar to this

2019-04-09 02:47:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Anyway, it's very late was a fun talk :)

2019-04-09 11:30:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

its the end of the world as we know it

2019-04-10 11:12:12 UTC [Sparta #general]  

5 hours... In 5 hours the humiliation begins anew

2019-04-11 11:54:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

is anyone going to help him?

2019-04-11 12:08:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

is he generally liked in the US?

2019-04-11 12:09:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

hmm, would have thought it was the other way around

2019-04-11 12:10:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

oh, it was the drone strikes getting leaked that got him in trouble, and that was under obama, so, ye i can picture that

2019-04-11 12:11:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

what were the emails about?

2019-04-11 12:12:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

i dont want to listen to that idiot lol

2019-04-11 12:14:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

ok wait, so its illegal to look at the emails, but its ok for CNN to tell you about them?

2019-04-11 18:27:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

some chub is nice

2019-04-11 18:32:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

whats the difference?

2019-04-11 18:32:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

then, yes

2019-04-11 18:33:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

you mean libertarian/

2019-04-11 18:33:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

?

2019-04-11 18:34:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

well you can be left liberalm or right liberal (libertarian)

2019-04-11 18:34:44 UTC [Sparta #general]  

is liberal about equality?

2019-04-11 18:34:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

i thought it was about ^^ liberty

2019-04-11 18:35:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

liberty =/= equality

2019-04-11 18:35:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

nope

2019-04-11 18:35:47 UTC [Sparta #general]  

liberty is freedom, you can be free but unequal

2019-04-11 18:36:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

libertarian used to be liberalism, until the SJWs took over some time ago and the conservative liberals needed a new name

2019-04-11 18:37:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

centrist

2019-04-11 18:38:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

hes an egaliratian

2019-04-11 18:38:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

(spelt wrong)

2019-04-11 18:38:44 UTC [Sparta #general]  

egalitarian

2019-04-11 18:39:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

lol, polar oposites

2019-04-11 18:40:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@garestan just take the political compass test and then pick a diagram that best fits your preference https://whsjohnnygreen.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Compass2.png

2019-04-11 18:42:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

im between right-libertairan and activism (whatever that is)

2019-04-11 18:44:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

corpocracies arent controlled economies

2019-04-11 18:44:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

thats communism

2019-04-11 18:44:44 UTC [Sparta #general]  

plus, for a corpocracy, you need more than one corporation in control

2019-04-11 18:45:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

cos KFC is so fucking good its disgusting

2019-04-11 18:46:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

the nazi's were socialists

2019-04-11 18:46:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

so ye, 1 step shy of communists, but right wing enough for people to own property

2019-04-11 18:47:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

well, no society is purely one system

2019-04-11 18:48:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

national socialism = socialism (providing care) for the national population (germans)

2019-04-11 18:49:29 UTC [Sparta #general]  

i think you mean jewish communists, their opponents in politics were often jews representing marxism

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