AngryShark

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2020-01-01 17:46:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So since nothing is happening. I have a question. How does solar and lunar eclipse work on flat Earth?

2020-01-01 17:54:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Anyone else actually willing to entertain the idea of answering. I mean if the model is based on reality. Then it shouldn't be hard.
Edit: If so. Just @ me.

2020-01-01 18:20:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I suspect there wont be an answer.

2020-01-01 18:23:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

A) Satan
B) Money
C) Money and Satan... Motan? Saney?

2020-01-01 18:25:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The greek started it

2020-01-01 18:28:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What did he say???

2020-01-01 18:28:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What the bot reacted just now? Ahh whatever.

2020-01-01 18:28:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Now we burried my question.

2020-01-01 18:31:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I thought thats lounge

2020-01-01 18:32:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Still wanna know what causes solar and lunar eclipses on flat earth.

2020-01-01 19:15:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The moon obsures our view of sun. Creating a solar eclipse. Usualy viable from few places. Would post a picture, but cant because role.

2020-01-01 19:19:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

To touch on lunar. That happends when earth is between sun and moon. Preventing light of the sun from reaching the moon.

2020-01-01 19:20:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you are trying to say that moon causes solar eclipse. Shouldn't we see top of the moon from distance? And what causes lunar eclipse then.

2020-01-01 19:34:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well we know its the moon. Cuz we can see its sides as it approaches earth. If it were something else. We would see it coming.
The reason you can see moon during the new moon phase is because he's on other side of the planet. He's on the day side. Lunar eclipse happens in place of full moon btw.
As for why moon move in opposite direction. Its because earth spins faster than it orbits.

2020-01-01 19:34:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The reason moon is so hard to see its because sun is too bring. And if you want to stare into it during eclipse to confirm its the moon. I dont sugest you do that. But its the same reason we dont see stars in middle of the day.

2020-01-01 19:36:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

sure

2020-01-01 20:41:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You do not see the moon because its shadow. When it moves on to the side. The reflection you should be seeing isnt to bring and the sun overshines it, which is the same reason you dont see stars during full day and the reason you dont see moon shadow while it aproaches the sun for eclipse.

2020-01-02 09:33:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well what it is? A non descript shadow object that only apears for eclipse and at the same time causes moon to disapear? While the moon should be between Earth and sun.

2020-01-02 16:29:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Moon doesnt cast shadow smaller than itself tho.

2020-01-02 16:29:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Moon is just 3500 kilometers in diameter.

2020-01-02 16:31:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yes however the sun is also much bigger than the moon. And dont big light sources cause objects to cast smaller shadows?

2020-01-02 16:33:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If lightsource is larger than the object casting it. It will cast smaller shadow.

2020-01-02 16:34:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You will also get this half shadow.

2020-01-02 16:35:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The half shadows actualy come out bigger. But the deep shadow does not.

2020-01-02 16:38:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This full shadow can be casted if the object is close enough. As distance increases deep shadow will be smaller and smaller. Until only half shadow will be left.

2020-01-02 16:41:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What we care about here is the umbra part of the shadow. Thats what allows us to observe full eclipse from earth. https://discordapp.com/channels/@me/427578074758905856/662334504643592222

2020-01-02 16:43:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

While those in penumbra part of the shadow on earth. Will observe only partial eclipse.
And if you were to observe this eclipse from even larger distance. You would only see a dark spot pass over the sun without it casting any noticeable shadow.

2020-01-02 16:51:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

meaby if i were allowed to actualy post them

2020-01-02 16:51:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

no lemme look them up again

2020-01-02 16:52:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

nonono i have to back up my claims

2020-01-02 16:52:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How else would you belive me

2020-01-02 16:53:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I mean its not like i didnt study optics and therefore have knowledge of how it works.

2020-01-02 16:53:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This should load

2020-01-02 16:53:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

and the second

2020-01-02 16:54:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So you arent even willing to take a look.

2020-01-02 16:54:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And that gives you extra knowledge?

2020-01-02 16:55:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why dont you prove it wrong them. Cuz saying "thats not how it works" isnt proving it. Thats making a claim. And you need to back up your claims.

2020-01-02 16:55:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So surely if you are doing this for so long it shouldnt be a problem for you.

2020-01-02 16:58:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Are you sure you are looking at the right picture.

2020-01-02 17:02:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The issue is that it isnt

2020-01-02 17:02:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Moon doesnt have to belive that.

2020-01-02 17:02:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It doesnt change reality.

2020-01-02 17:03:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Youve heard of perspective right? Big objects can apear small if they are far away and small can apear large if they are close.

2020-01-02 17:03:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You can do this with coins ffs

2020-01-02 17:04:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As for the flashlight and the coin. The light source isnt big enough for that. AS you said. sun is larger by more than 400 times compared to moon

2020-01-02 17:04:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I am yet to change the model. Its not my fault you cannot compremend the sizes in question.

2020-01-02 17:05:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can you?

2020-01-02 17:05:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Opps

2020-01-02 17:05:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do as you want. Ban me. IT doesnt change anything.

2020-01-02 17:05:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What moon thinks is irrelevant.

2020-01-02 17:05:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I can think im bigger than an elephant but that doesnt make me bigger.

2020-01-02 17:06:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The elephant is still larger.

2020-01-02 17:06:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yet i can apear to be same size or even bigger if i stand close enough to the observer and the elephant stands far away.

2020-01-02 17:07:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What im saying is that you cannot deny they can be different sizes.

2020-01-02 17:08:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

See my elephant analogy.

2020-01-02 17:08:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So what do you want. A photo of the sun and moon right next to it?

2020-01-02 17:08:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Nono tell me what kind of photo you want.

2020-01-02 17:09:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why cant you provide a photo that would prove me wrong.

2020-01-02 17:09:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I mean if its the reality and the sun isnt that far away and that big why is it so difficult.

2020-01-02 17:09:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Now can we plase stop moving the goalposts.

2020-01-02 17:12:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If they were the same size you wouldnt see the korona.

2020-01-02 17:12:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  
2020-01-02 17:12:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As you can see one of the circles is smaller than the other.

2020-01-02 17:13:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Exept you cannot see light that doesnt reflect into your eyes. thats why you cant see laser beams of pointers.

2020-01-02 17:13:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Unless they are going though a medium that would reflect them, like smoke.

2020-01-02 17:14:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Because during the eclipse moon is nowhere around the earth to be found.

2020-01-02 17:14:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Moon infact is a solid object.

2020-01-02 17:14:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What. Can moon be on two places at once?

2020-01-02 17:14:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So you want a photo of the moon now?

2020-01-02 17:15:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So you want the photo of solar eclipse where im illuminating the moon so that you can see it.

2020-01-02 17:15:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well how do you want me to prove that moon cant be at two places at once.

2020-01-02 17:16:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What proof do you want then.

2020-01-02 17:16:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Elaborate

2020-01-02 17:16:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Empirical. Yes. Thats logical. But i need more information.

2020-01-02 17:16:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Cuz im sure as hell pictures of moon will be written off as nasa hoax.

2020-01-02 17:17:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How about. I dont know the circle that covers the sun during eclipse having the same diameter as the moon.

2020-01-02 17:20:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well i dont have a reason to think that those are faked in the first place. If we work under premise that what nasa posts is fake. Then we need to set out on our own and take the pictures myself.
In that case both aproaches are incorrect until one of them is proven by evidence we on our own provide.

2020-01-02 17:21:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you can just claim some source is false you can prove whatever you want. Just say that provided evidence is fake because you disagree with it and there is some conspiracy around it.

2020-01-02 17:21:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What is the issue.

2020-01-02 17:22:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

the picure is clearly taken from different points of view.

2020-01-02 17:22:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Because ion the upper one we dont see australia.

2020-01-02 17:22:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Years have nothing to do with it. The point of view is different.

2020-01-02 17:22:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah thats it i cant prove you wrong if you dont listen!

2020-01-02 17:23:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yes i did and now im googling the picure

2020-01-02 17:24:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As i wish to know the source

2020-01-02 17:24:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I found one of them. And aperantly that is not a photo. Is an artist made picure. And a wallpaper.

2020-01-02 17:25:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So you admit they are real then.

2020-01-02 17:25:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

By the way. I dont apreciate your threats @Flat Earth PhD

2020-01-02 17:25:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If thats how you run your server i am sorry.

2020-01-02 17:26:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You asume im troling

2020-01-02 17:27:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Flat earth BEAST then you arent even willing to have a debate

2020-01-02 17:27:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im suprised you didnt point out different color of the ocean

2020-01-02 17:29:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How can they prove themselves if everything they say is aperantly a lie.

2020-01-02 17:30:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There is a ton of raw pictures but then again there goes the fish eye lens argument

2020-01-02 17:31:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@Flat earth BEAST and all you have to do is get high enough

2020-01-02 17:31:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

like idk a baloon

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