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2019-12-04 01:52:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

No, I'm 187

2019-12-04 01:52:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

IQ circlejerking is monumentally dumb dude

2019-12-04 01:53:04 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

<:big_brained:396156349676781569>

2019-12-04 01:53:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2019-12-04 01:53:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

as a med student, I can tell you reaction time has much more to do with your spinal cord and peripheral nervous system

2019-12-04 01:53:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

than encephalon

2019-12-04 01:54:18 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

<:retard:641879583662014504>

2019-12-04 01:54:21 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

kek

2019-12-04 01:55:17 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2019-12-04 01:55:27 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

there you go, selection bias

2019-12-04 01:55:57 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

๐Ÿ‡ธ

2019-12-04 01:56:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

let's never talk about it again

2019-12-04 01:56:31 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

IQ dickwaving is cringe

2019-12-04 01:56:44 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

>quantum physics
>understand

2019-12-04 01:56:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

you mean put on a lab coat and pretend you know what you're talking about?

2019-12-04 01:56:59 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

physicists have no fucking idea

2019-12-04 01:57:50 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

based

2019-12-04 01:57:54 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

and epistemepilled

2019-12-04 01:58:25 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

where's the lie tho

2019-12-04 01:59:32 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I think there is a link.

2019-12-04 01:59:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

But I think it's more of a correlation than a causative relation.

2019-12-04 02:00:07 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

General nervous fitness will cause both cognition and reaction time to rise simultaneously

2019-12-04 02:00:16 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

But reaction time is affected by a lot.

2019-12-04 02:00:39 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

For example, the cortex and its impulses doesn't cause the PNS to activate so much as suppresses it.

2019-12-04 02:00:57 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Which is why stroke patients tend to have strengthened reflexes and "pathological signs" or pathological reflexes.

2019-12-04 02:01:15 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Reflexes which normally should be suppressed, but no longer are because part of thecortex is either dead or blocked off/dysfunctional.

2019-12-04 02:01:35 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

They're reflexes that children have until 1.5-2 years old or so, after which point their cortex develops enough to suppress them.

2019-12-04 02:01:42 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Such as the common grabbing reflex.

2019-12-04 02:01:52 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

When you put something in an infant's hand, they will grab it

2019-12-04 02:02:03 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

A stroke patient will sometimes do so too, if hte relevant region was affected

2019-12-04 02:02:20 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Normal people don't have this pathological reflex, which is why its appearance is called pathological

2019-12-04 02:02:45 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@James Peterson Honestly, there's also a negative relationship between cortex activity and reflex time.

2019-12-04 02:03:24 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

So it's pretty unintuitive to establish a link between the two, since general fitness of the nervous system would cause both to rise at first, but the higher your cortex's activity, the lower your reflexes.

2019-12-04 02:03:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

You may wantto look up reflex torpidity, but I'm not sure if that will give you many results in English-language literature.

2019-12-04 02:03:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I study in Russian, after all

2019-12-04 02:04:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

based putin

2019-12-04 02:05:09 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@James Peterson Complex and simple reaction time being defined as?

2019-12-04 02:06:34 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

press F to pay respects to my sleep schedule

2019-12-04 02:06:47 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

it's been years in the grave

2019-12-04 02:07:19 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I mean I agree but it's objectively shit for your health

2019-12-04 02:08:06 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

In medical terms that distinction would be different. There are reflexes that bounce off of the spinal cord alone - pain reflexes, for example

2019-12-04 02:08:14 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

And there are reflexes that run all the way up to your brain

2019-12-04 02:08:25 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

There are also pain reflexes like that, actually

2019-12-04 02:08:35 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

some go into your cerebellum, some go elsewhere, it's whatever

2019-12-04 02:08:44 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

All in all, I don't think it's a very useful distinction to make.

2019-12-04 02:09:47 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Russia

2019-12-04 02:09:56 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

To give you an example, you know when the doc hits your knee with a hammer

2019-12-04 02:09:58 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

and it jolts up?

2019-12-04 02:10:04 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

that's an unconditional reflex

2019-12-04 02:10:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

it can't be trained away

2019-12-04 02:10:22 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

there are also conditional reflexes, which are trained in order to appear, and can fade

2019-12-04 02:10:44 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Reflexes have 3 elements: the afferent segment, the central segment which is optional, and the efferent segment.

2019-12-04 02:11:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The afferent pathway sends the signal up to the spinal column, the central segment (which may be absent, or may be a neuron in the spinal column, or may be several neurons going from the spine all the way up to the brain, and whichever parts of it) processes the signal, and the efferent segment activates the response.

2019-12-04 02:12:02 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

be that in a muscle or in a gland

2019-12-04 02:12:08 UTC [JFG.world #general]  
2019-12-04 02:12:12 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

IQ is a relative measure

2019-12-04 02:12:16 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

not an absolute one

2019-12-04 02:12:33 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

if you look up where "IQ = 100 is the average" comes from

2019-12-04 02:12:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

you'll find out that it's either the mean or the mode

2019-12-04 02:12:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I forget which

2019-12-04 02:13:24 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@James Peterson so basically, due to the variety of reflexes

2019-12-04 02:13:38 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

"general" reflex speed isn't useful in almost anything except analyzing rehabilitation progress after stroke

2019-12-04 02:13:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

or neuron demyelinization

2019-12-04 02:13:56 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

in a test that's called an electroneuromiogram

2019-12-04 02:13:58 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

ENMG

2019-12-04 02:14:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

np

2019-12-04 02:14:52 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Deleted User doesn't higher IQ correlate to asociality, anxiety and lower reproductive success?

2019-12-04 02:14:54 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

beyond some point

2019-12-04 02:15:07 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

too much IQ is actualyl a thing

2019-12-04 02:15:32 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

how would I know

2019-12-04 02:15:38 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I'm doing fine with 180+

2019-12-04 02:15:47 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

But there are autists out there with 150

2019-12-04 02:15:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

who can't function in society

2019-12-04 02:16:00 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Okay, you got me, I'm 70 IQ

2019-12-04 02:16:10 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Leaf that's an extraneous 1

2019-12-04 02:16:12 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

just 70

2019-12-04 02:16:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Maybe I'm not super g

2019-12-04 02:16:47 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I don't attach any real importance to IQ tests. All they measure is your ability to take an IQ test. "Intelligence" is too poorly defined in the first place

2019-12-04 02:17:04 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

IQ tests are pretty good at predicting life outcomes though

2019-12-04 02:17:12 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

but that's also limited

2019-12-04 02:17:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Hector Autism is a complex condition

2019-12-04 02:17:40 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I can make an argument that it's caused by a disbalance in white and gray brain matter too

2019-12-04 02:17:46 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

or that it's completely a social construct

2019-12-04 02:17:59 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

those arguments might be good or they might be shit but whatever

2019-12-04 02:18:08 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Hector Reading is for tryhards.

2019-12-04 02:18:11 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Real chads JUST KNOW

2019-12-04 02:18:38 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@James Peterson Yes, there should be.

2019-12-04 02:19:11 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

An unconditional reflex, which is the second type of reflex you mentioned in your question, would typically have 3 neurons (it may have 5 or more, though) and isn't interdictable by the cortex.

2019-12-04 02:19:18 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

A conditional reflex typically is.

2019-12-04 02:19:23 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

It's pretty relative though.

2019-12-04 02:19:32 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

As they saying goes "the mind is a dark materia."

2019-12-04 02:19:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

You can't look into it very precisely, so there's a *lot* of conjecture.

2019-12-04 02:20:26 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Hector Wouldn't be surprised. Autism is male, and some other disorder is mainly female

2019-12-04 02:20:38 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I don't think it was BPD, so maybe it was schizo? Or something else.

2019-12-04 02:20:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Women are susceptible to a different set of neural problems.

2019-12-04 02:21:13 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

> Most high IQ people are extroverted and go into business.

2019-12-04 02:21:16 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I really strongly doubt that.

2019-12-04 02:21:34 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

The more active your cortex,the more your thoughts tend to be internalized

2019-12-04 02:21:41 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Which lends itself very strongly and very easily to introversion.

2019-12-04 02:21:46 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

You actually have to train it out.

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