Tony_Swann

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2020-02-28 03:12:55 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Part of the problem is people thinking who they are and where/when they are born are "arbitrary". There is literally only one set of circumstances in the entire universe that could have lead to "you" existing. Your existence is literally the opposite of arbitrary.

2020-02-28 03:19:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Societies are built by groups not individuals. So political philosophy really has nothing to do with individual people.

2020-02-28 03:46:03 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

https://summit.news/2020/02/24/journalists-attacked-by-violent-bernie-bros-in-austin-texas/

2020-02-28 03:46:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

https://cdn.summit.news/2020/02/Capture1.png

2020-02-28 03:46:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

^ This is the Bernie bro that wants you to give all your money to the government.

2020-02-28 05:26:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

Based Meds

2020-02-28 07:36:40 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Rule 1: Everything is political.

2020-02-28 07:36:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Rule 2: Politics is about power projection.

2020-02-28 07:36:48 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Rule 3: Power is violence

2020-02-28 07:38:51 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The political establishment uses trannies as biological and propagandistic weapons to project power over the population. Every time they force you under threat to repeat their propaganda they reinforce their power over you. Its designed to humiliate and make you feel helpless.

2020-02-28 07:40:47 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The Ottoman turks dis the same to Balkans Christians by forcing them to give their young boys to be use as open sex slaves to the sultan and other high officials. If they can do THAT to you they can do anything to you and your inferior position is reinforced.

2020-02-28 07:41:40 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

People may not realise the explicit politics of it but the FEELING of being threatened if they don't say it is very real. And there will be violence for refusing to say it.

2020-02-28 07:41:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

You will be harassed and that's how it starts.

2020-02-28 07:42:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Backlash = violence

2020-02-28 07:43:44 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

It may be a "lesser" form of violence but it is still very real. And it will often escalate until the end goal of submission is achieved.

2020-02-28 07:44:53 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Without the capacity to do violence words mean nothing. Its not that words are violence but for them to have weight there must be the threat of violence backing them up.

2020-02-28 07:46:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Might doesn't make right, it decides who is left. But the thing is you have to be left to be able to be right.

2020-02-28 07:48:24 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Show strength. Dont let them power project on you.

2020-02-28 07:49:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

There is no way to oppose transgenderism from within the liberal dialectic. You have to abandon that.

2020-02-28 07:50:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Freedom, happiness, tolerance. These are not virtues. That's the first argument. The second is putting the wellbeing of society above the selfish demands of the mentally ill transvestite.

2020-02-28 07:52:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The majority of trans have mental issues of one kind or another. Self hatred, unhealthy sexual fetishes... ect. It is absolutely NOT the responsibility of everyone else in society to resolve these mental deficiencies for them. They have no right to demand that of anyone.

2020-02-28 07:54:03 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@argbla Im net telling you to lead death squads or attack anyone. You just have to understand the nature of politics. Power projection is the core of it without that you have nothing.

2020-02-28 07:55:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@argbla you will almost never change the mind of the person you are arguing with, they are committed enough to their ideas to argue them with people and that's that. Arguments are only for red pilling onlookers to the argument.

2020-02-28 09:34:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I should update the list so no one gets confused.

2020-02-28 09:34:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Rule 1: Everything is political.
Rule 2: Politics is about power projection.
Rule 3: Power is violence.
Rule 4: Violence is action intended to harm.

2020-02-28 18:25:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

black athletes Kneeling for the American national anthem: stunning and brave!

2020-02-28 18:26:01 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

American athletes kneeling for the israeli national anthem: evil antisemetic hate!

2020-02-28 18:26:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

hmmmmm <:DeusThonk:639264251688779786>

2020-02-28 18:31:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

Just imagine how racist and evil it would be if they were white...

2020-02-28 18:42:56 UTC [Call-In Show Server #pictures]  

That meme is repulsive๐Ÿ‘ƒ for some reason.

2020-02-28 18:56:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

That twitter post just goes to illustrate what I said before about kids being forced into sex slavery in the ottoman empire. we are only one step from that here in our own society.

2020-02-28 20:09:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

My definition of violence is ANY action intended to harm. So propaganda meant to subvert would fall under that definition.

2020-02-28 21:07:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

How does someone like that get a job in a hospital in the first place?

2020-02-28 23:22:22 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron I very clearly defined what I mean when I use the word "violence" in this context. Try to keep up bro.

2020-02-29 01:42:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@McFansy I use the word "violent" to highlight the fact that in this political debate the other sides intention is to hurt people, its not just some sort of intellectual navel gazing. But apparently that went over some peoples head.

2020-02-29 03:07:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

@Dan V seriously?

2020-02-29 03:09:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

lol

2020-02-29 05:02:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron Words are constantly being invented, and reused in new creative ways. You should leave the thinking to people who are actually capable of using reason. This isn't a good look for you bro.

2020-02-29 05:09:33 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I think the word "violence" has more impact than other words do. The usual discussion around political debate treats it purely as speech and not as a form of power projection, and because of that some people forget that behind every law, or proposed law, is a police officer with a gun and a licence ready to enforce that law on you.

2020-02-29 05:11:20 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@MechMage In a sense it is. People vote because they want the system to do something and ultimately the system must use violence and/or the threat of violence to do it.

2020-02-29 05:13:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The whole discussion started because someone asked about trans activists asking loaded questions to live streamers. The questions will be played off as "just words/speech" but any answer the streamer give will become a political statement, and wrong answers WILL lead to a potentially escalating series of aggressions from the trans activists. It might be "just speech" but there is a very real threat behind the words.

2020-02-29 05:15:21 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I think the disconnect is that I don't view violence as having any moral component in itself. Where as some people view violence as being immoral in nature.

2020-02-29 05:17:47 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

If violence is used to defend something good then it is a moral act. If it is used to defend something evil then it is an evil act. But the violence itself has no moral value/nature.

2020-02-29 05:19:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

A mugger attacking someone unprovoked is acting in an immoral way towards him. If an onlooker then used violence on the mugger the onlooker would be morally justified and that violence would be celebrated.

2020-02-29 05:19:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Destroying things that are evil or immoral is morally good.

2020-02-29 05:23:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

If its immoral UNLESS justified thats just another way of saying that justified violence is not immoral; which is essentially the same thing that Im saying.

2020-02-29 05:23:39 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

The difference is that your statement frames violence negatively while I frame it neutrally.

2020-02-29 05:27:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

I disagree. Its not the violence itself that is the issue, its the ends that the violence serves that give it its moral character.

2020-02-29 05:27:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Its why we celebrate soldiers, whose purpose is to kill in defense of the nation.

2020-02-29 06:41:22 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron I have explained EXACTLY what I meant so if you are still confused that's on you. You are so mad over something that is completely pointless. You are just not equipped to have this conversation.

2020-02-29 07:12:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #links]  

This is a total abdication of male leadership... Men need to put these idiots in line.

2020-02-29 18:43:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Theo I have defended the point I made multiple times, but for whatever reason @Nyaboron is caught up on one word that I used. Funny how other people were still able to have a good debate but not him?

2020-02-29 18:46:22 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron "you're intentionally stealing the impact of the word violence while changing the meaning to suit your needs.". Yes.

2020-02-29 18:47:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron "you're intellectually inconsistent". Wrong.

2020-02-29 18:49:53 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Catboi Not exactly. In your example the the feminists argument centers on the fact that she feels like its rape; In my example the point centers on the actual intention of the person making the veiled threats.

2020-02-29 18:51:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Catboi "I'm not interested in arguing" That explains it all.

2020-02-29 19:39:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@McFansy I agree with you that propaganda isn't "physical" violence but my original point was about the entire political system being violent in nature. Like i was saying to MechMage I think we basically agree, the difference is just about the framing of the issue. I really don't see why these other guys are getting so triggered by that.

2020-02-29 20:34:39 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

"equate violence to feelings of aggression" I never equated that.

2020-02-29 20:37:49 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Avald No, because what I was saying was that the "intention" that was behind the words was what was important it has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

2020-02-29 20:41:40 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Im happy to explain what I mean, but for some reason some people decided to get triggered and ignored what I said after I clarified it.

2020-02-29 20:43:20 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron no one has wasted more time here than you.

2020-02-29 20:47:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

@Nyaboron You might want to go back and check your first post. No one was insulting anyone else until you chimed in.

2020-02-29 20:56:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #debate]  

Stay mad @Nyaboron

2020-03-01 07:53:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

Another good video from Ryan. If you don't listen to the whole thing at least listen to the last 5 min.

2020-03-01 16:57:50 UTC [Call-In Show Server #videos]  

No one winning is the best possible outcome.

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