too much of the NS movement i feel is degenerate

it's not got much in common with the original NSDAP

it's why i didn't take the redpill much earlier. I thought "Hitler sounds right, but do I want to be associated with louts like these?"

yeah, how you present yourself to the world reflects your mental state

most communication is non-verbal and ineffable

if you guys wanna dress up like thugs and call yourselves superior, be my guests. but i'm not the only one who's noticed this trend

American History X is one of the most thoroughly hebraic films out there

you can't just paint with a blanket stroke. there's a difference between being blue-collar/having street smarts and being a drunkard and a lout

So you posit there's no such thing as thuggery?

you think it's fine to act as negroes act? Rockwell's NSWPP, Pierce's NA, even the SA of the NSDAP conducted themselves differently than how you're suggesting. Being rough-and-tumble is a far cry from animalistic and simplistic behavior. Not all actions are of the same caliber or quality; it's what separates us from the non-White races. Behavior and how one carries oneself is crucially important. It's why I don't like any of those gothic subcultures or juggalo culture or homosexuals who otherwise behave (relatively) normally. It all counts. I'm not against the lower classes, and i have respect for the SA. But they were not degerates and didn't cover themselves in tattoos

it instinctively repels people just like blue hair and piercings do

i can't believe saying dress nicely and maintain a sense of decency is considered subversive. Yeah, i'm not sure reveling in sexuality is a good thing. It doesn't feel right.

i'm not trying to reinvent the wheel here. i'm saying that these behaviors are neither the best nor the most socially healthy. Encouraging licentiousness in any capacity is just as bad as seemingly "normal" homosexuals doing their thing. It's not healthy. No that's not really my genre of music. i prefer anthems, marches, and some power metal but that's really it

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i'll be impressed if you can explain how sharing pictures of goth "Nazi" girls and hypersexualizing them is somehow more wholesome than blue hair and someone saying "vote yes!" to the australian plebiscite or whatever it is (my point is that the latter is *not wholesome*, but normies can't see how it's not wholesome because they think it's all based on "love" and "pleasure" and "it doesn't hurt anybody")

i don't think sharing pictures of girl's behinds is what would have been tolerated in NS Germany. It isn't even a representation of normal sexuality, but a subculture. i think it's hypocritical to call out the homosexuals who otherwise act relatively normal and then share "goth" girls covered in tattoos. it oozed judaism

why's sodomy bad in your opinion?

i want to know why he considers sodomy between consenting adults (something i consider morally reprehsible) to be fine, but bantering about asses is just fine. i want to know, otherwise it seems like hypocrisy

i base my beliefs on what is socially harmful. Goebbels was right, but i believe you're misinterpreting him

you're implying you don't have a response. my response is that both are bad because both are psychologically unhealthy

homosexuality is wrong because of its social impact. So too is premarital sex and sexualizing women unnecissarily

if it's so easy to prove me wrong, do it concisely and right now. explain why homos are bad but this is not bad. Explain why sex before marriage, or polygamy, or numerous sex partners is bad for society but not fostering those thoughts with images like that

no, because modern society is unacceptable

it's objectively amoral

and i don't think we should indulge in it

you are saying that if i maintain a moral stance on sexuality that i'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater

then you're no better than a homosexual who ignores the spiritual reality of sexuality

i'm not particularly smart

and i don't have illusions about being smart

i'm just trying to articulate my gut feelings

well why do you consider sodomy wrong

i'm genuinely curious

continue to think of me as an idiot if it helps

my point is, i want to know where you base your sexual ethics

@Fevs so homosexuality isn't wrong if its done by two people out in the woods away from society as voluntary hermits who know they have no disease?

i think this gets dangerously close to justifying polygamy, promiscuity, pornography even

"as long as they're White and we're doing it without Jewish publishers to celebrate the Aryan form and encourage fertility and arousal in males!"

i have to go now. i'll be back later

i don't believe in purity spiralling. but some things are wrong

if homosexuality is only considered wrong because you can't make White babies, then you're basing its immorality on its impracticality. Its effects are immoral and not the action itself. In a theoretical world, then, one that's overpopulated with no more planets to colonize, then homosexuality wouldn't be wrong. That's *obviously* not the case, because the immorality lies in the act itself

I used to do a bunch of degenerate shit, and i stopped when i realized the immense harm it was doing to me. i wouldn't welcome a face full of fishnetted NSBM ass because i don't think it's healthy. it's an excuse to do unhealthy stuff; it's just wrapped up in a pretty cloth. it's chocolate-coated poison

getting drunk, being promiscuous, watching porn etc. i cut it all out because it's not healthy, and i wish i could get those sexual experiences back. i never will, and it's my greatest regret

i don't think we should be encouraging the sharing of raunchy pictures

i mean even softcore or suggestive stuff that involves clothing

but the only way the homosexuals were able to take those first steps was by loosening sexual morals and attitudes to begin with

homosexuality is not wrong because it's a slippery slope, it's wrong for its own reasons

it also happens to be a slippery slope

the same exact thing with sharing pictures of "NSBM ass"

You think the Jews aren't trying desperately to get us in pitfall traps?

That is from a different time and was done in a different spirit

The ecstacy of St. Theresa is not the same as fishnetted ass

i suppose that's all we can do. thanks for being civil. I just think that we should always bear in Mind the Ladder of Divine Ascent (even if you're not Orthodox). People always look for outlets for degenerate urges and seek desperately to justify them and wallow in them

Life is struggle. Ethnicity is struggle

more or less, dude

dismissing any critical thought as self-absorbed intellectualism is dangerous, though

we have to temper our thinking with what is practical and actually *real* , yes, but we can't dismiss philosophy because some people think incorrect or inapplicable thoughts

@Kombat-Unit i'm asking what defines degeneracy

@Arcturus stupid philosophy is stupid and can be exposed as such. But philosophy is one of the West's great traditions, and it's abstract thought that separates us from lower man

What @MatthewHeimbach said is perfect. No one needs bullshit. But if you're telling me having a foundation from which you've built your worldview on is stupid, that's exceedingly negroid

I don't mean to conflate sound thought with sophistry

I hope you guys know i'm anti-all that trotskyite, neo-marxist, frankfurt school, postmodern bullshit

where people get wrapped up in theoretical nonsense

but there is a need to have a groundwork for why you believe what you believe

i wanted to specify some of the aspects.

It's not possible to be "too smart" and therefore you lose reality. By definition that's not true. "Intellectuals" are *dumb* , not smart

I was out at a rally dude

more than once

i've been beaten for this

i don't mean to sound holier-than-thou but i'm desperate to not seem like some dweeb

who's all "muh morals" while doing nothing for the movement

i've long lamented how we sit around memeing and not doing anything while the left uses walkie-talkies and co-ordinates attacks

too many people don't, is my point

if i had to guess, you don't care about the negroes kneeling during the national anthem, then? not meant as an accusatory question but one borne of curiosity

accelerationism?

so a form of proto-accelerationism. to wake People up

to get the fence-sitters

i don't. i probably should, but this is my home

and i feel awful seeing the world of my childhood (which was clinton-era shit to begin with) slide further into the filth

I think my late grandfather would've loved Dr. Pierce

i plan on briging tape recordings of ADV to his & my grandmother's graves

call it cheesey

@Hadrian 's always giving me shit for always listening to ADV and nothing new

i love the nostalgia of Dr. Pierce's voice though. I never heard him as a child but everything about it; the sound quality, the topics etc. reminds me of my grandparents

does anyone have every single broadcast? i listen to Herr Nordstrom on YouTube but i don't think he has all of them

American Dissident Voices

Dr. Pierce's broadcasts

thanks man, i appreciate it

they took down the archive.org store of all his broadcasts

which infuriated me

it had an Aryan Nations speech as well i think

@Kombat-Unit 👌🏻

thank you so much, man

i thought for sure he had broadcasts dating back to at least 1994 though?

i swear i've heard speeches dated 1994

that'd get me in such huge trouble here

i was almost fired for a Swastika phone wallpaper

"people"

i know but ever since i started showing my power levels my luck's been getting worse