No, Marx studied a lot, just check the biography

as well as Lenin, Stalin and others

they have plenty of volumes

rtfm, like mao

you're the lazy here

go read from what you don't know instead of believing the capitalist propaganda and bourgeois economy

we answered all your questions

principles of communism

then, the communist manifesto, and capital is the definitive one

liberals manipulate a lot about the labour theory of value

in the critique of gotha's programme he says that labour isn't the source of all value

the theory is 95% true from analysis of the marxist economist Paul Cockshott

Principles of communism is very short

that too

@OF-8 Are you a worker?

you sell your labour force to a capitalist right?

to a business owner?

ok

do you have a business?

I agree Stalin and Mao are easy

Stalin wrote for the common people

But it's more to understand leninism

I just see in my family

There's a worker in my family working for someone else, a business owner

and he tries to win as much as possible, making that worker work as much as possible, with less salary as possible

this workers earns just a bit in form of salary

the other "value" goes for the business owner

in socialism we can plan this in a form that the workers receive what they work

wagecuck? like most workers

Then?

Do you think that all workers can have them?

That's distributism, an utopic doctrine

How is exploiting being exceptional?

capitalism is always distorted

yes, capitalists are a minority

no, capitalists are people who have other people working for them

and they profit from them

if I sell my shoe to someone face to face I don't have anyone working for me

Being capitalist or not doesn't depend on the belief of economic value

I didn't make the shoe, I bought it before

In that case I didn't have workers working for me

I just bought a shoe with my money

and then sold it

no

I'm putting a case in which I'm no capitalist

I just buy from a shop and sell the shoe

with no people working for me

I'm just trading

now, if I had an enterprise and I had workers doing the shoes; I'd profit and pay the workers a wage

in that case I'd be a capitalist

no

Marx explains capitalism

I'm telling who's a capitalist

you think that it depends on belief

neoclassical economics?

austrian ones?

they falsify marxism

that's why you hate it

surely you read about the subjective theory of value

instead of misinterpreting it, I'd advice you reading it or asking us

I believed once in that like you

because I read neoclassical economics and austrian economics but they falsify marxism

no, read from marx directly not the enemies of marxism

Communism is the science of the proletariat

There are marxist economists like Cockshott

a philosophy too

yes, again he discovered labour exploitation

neoclassical economics are idealist pseudoscience, closed models to match the society

marxism describes capitalism; he didn't propose a clear socialist alternative

that's done by modern marxist economists; planned economy is from Lenin

and it was shaped by Stalin in practice

now we have cybernetics to improve supply and demand in real time, in a central planned economy

Allin Cottrel, Paul Cockshott do

also, in Allende's Chile they had a project called Cybersyn

Stafford Beer in the 70's wanted to establish a cybernetic system there

maybe, from the 70s

well, when people say that it's an economic dictatorship; I'd point that there are technical improvements

https://irevolution.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/picture-1.png

well, some leftcoms would disagree with me

but that's not from marx

It's for socialist proposals, not from the analysis of capitalism

it worked

you can read about the improvements in socialist countries

well, the socialist countries remaining are too little, so they need some kind of market socialism

Cuba and North Korea

still, I compare Haiti (puppet of the US) and Cuba, I think Cuba is better; but I don't like market socialism I'd focus on emerging it internationally as possible

Russia was a great territory

achieving socialism in the US would liberate a lot of countries

Hillary Clinton funded al qaeda

admitted by her

and that went to ISIS

this to go against communists

they're all imperialists

Obama, Clinton, Trump

I see the culture of the US compared with Europe

they call libertarians extreme right wing propertarians, here we call libertarians left wing anarchists

and the right has some rebellious theme

here is the contrary, the left

Trump pointed out that Obama invaded Irak and other countries

and the voters thinking that he wouldn't invade those places, voted him; but they're the same imperialists