Immigration isn't inherently beneficial to capitalists

Especially when it isn't under a capitalist system

If it's a socialist society it isn't capitalist

That's how

It's not replacement though

The great replacement has been thoroughly debunked

Cut that bs pls

So any data?

That hasn't been thoroughly discredited

So it isn't actually cultural replacement. Its racial. And this doesn't mean that whites literally shrunk as a group. They just have less of a share of the population because after immigration (specifically 1965) reform, the population grew exponentially

None of this points to whites being "replaced", except that last article which I bet

No I'm not. It literally isn't replacement

The population is just growing

Whites are still@there

Not being replaced

More people are just coming in

Not comparable

who gives a fuck bout a motherland doe

what good is that in a completely new country

with new laws and new culture

@CaesarKonrad did you even read ur own article my man lol

The new statistics project that the nation will become “minority white” in 2045. During that year, whites will comprise 49.7 percent of the population in contrast to 24.6 percent for Hispanics, 13.1 percent for blacks, 7.9 percent for Asians, and 3.8 percent for multiracial populations (see Figure 1).

it's saying exactly wtf i was saying. Just because you're no longer the majority doesn't make you a minority.

that isn't how statistics works

^ kind of like race is really arbitrary and stupid as it exists conceptually

wtf r u even saying cat, I'm saying that just because you no longer make up the majority of something doesn't mean ur a minority. 49% is still bigger than each of those numbers, there will just be more ethnic minorities than there were in the past

also extrapolations from current trends isn't really reliable

anything could happen in the next 30 years that could very well flip shit ok it's head, so take them with a grain of salt

therefore ... whites are still more prevalent than everyone else, there are just more people than there were before

Not hard

Keep up pls

duh numbah lowah doe 😳

it is tho

At least how it has been expressed for the last 400 years

Ever since the age of exploration where it became profitable to enslave entire populations of brown ppl really

The fluidity of who is white and what white means for example. Hispanics and Irish people weren't considered white until recently. It's not like their genetic makeup changed into white

They just became more accepted socially into the very exclusive white people only club demographic

they were considered brutish and ape-like (both also comparisons made with blacks), with an entirely different physiognomy than the Anglo-Saxon typical American white, and were often given the same treatment as other marginalized groups. Effectively segregating them from WASPS

But in any case

Yes actually there are Hispanic whites

Theyre made reference to in the statistics that you lot gave me yesterday to shit on immigrants

not you specifically, I think it was sato specifically but you were all yelling at me about the same thing so I grouped you together lol

also cringe @OrthoGoat

stop schizoposting

how am I a tankie

so

de leonism predates even the USSR

it like by definition can't be tankie man

there weren't even any socialist experiments in existence when it was conceived of

hitler duh

don't like Stalin but I don't like hitler harder

cause he's a Nazi

i'm at complete axiomatic odds w him and his beliefs

because my ideas and the ideals the USSR were founded upon are both at least philosophically aligned. and I generally agree, but still. I think I can agree with and understand Stalin more than hitler

collective ownership of the means of production, planned economy, social equality at least (one of the things I disagree with soviet policy, their system of wages and heavy state suppression of workers)

I don't fw state capitalism

good joke 😄

👍😃

capitalism really sux man

how does that make me a larper though

By collective ownership I mean

Democratically organized

Socialist industrial unionism

that's how

It's the most analogous to the modern government imo

yea so basically, there's an industrial congress that, instead of politicians, is operated by unions of workers representing different industries and their interests

kinda yea

and how is this larping

pls explain

I said I vaguely align with Stalin because he was a socialist and I share more interests with him than a Nazi

I didn't think that was very revolutionary

but apparently it blew ur fuckin mind lol

how

how am I not aligned w Stalin

And how is this larp

Except german capitalists backed hitler and hitler protected capital and the capitalists attacked the Soviet Union since its inception lol

I can help you understand ig just hold tight

the first graph shows the share of national income that went to capital in Germany between 29 and 41

not really

but since you want to talk about workers rights, even though I was talking about protecting capital

hitler liquidated many labor unions and labor leaders and replaced them with a government regulated labor union

yeah... so did I. That's why it's called capitalism after all

And the share of national income that went to capital grew under the Nazis

So

Idk what else you'd call that

Except protecting capital

yeah and that's another problem I have with the soviets as a socialist industrial unionist

Labor organization was organized by the state mostly

How does criticizing the soviets make me a tankie again? Lol

Or a larper

Or whatever

Just because I recognize that I share more in common with a socialist than a Nazi

no. you said that the Nazis were pursuing an alternative to capital and because of that I was aligned to both. I was just saying that was bullshit lol

it depends on how profit is being used @Spergerger returns on capital can be used to benefit people or line the wallets of businessmen.