InfraRed LXIX

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Marx explains it

By using what he calls "primitive communism", he went on to explain how a classless and stateless society would work.

Anarchism and communism are very similar though. It's just that there are anarchist's who, aside from being short a couple of chromosomes, believe we can live in a class-structured society without a state to govern it.

Not necessarily. With all of the "stateless-states" that have ever existed, the only reason that they failed was do to foreign intervention.

The Paris Commune, The Free State, etc etc etc

The Paris Commune had great influence on Marx. He used it as a foundation to why a dictatorship was necessary. What he didn't take into consideration was the repercussions of a Socialist-Dictatorship. George Orwell knew this better than anyone. He knew that the Soviet Union was doomed to fail, almost 50 years before it did.

That was the issue

All of these "states" fell to foreign invasion.

2nd one is shit

>using bestgore

ThatsPhucked my dude

BestGore is shit

Yes, Juche is Communist

Because it's not Capitalist if a Socialist country does it. Failing to see the irony of such a sad post only shows how narrow minded you are.

Yes, because a lack of state and a lack of class structure inevitably breed state-corruption. Are you fuckin brain dead?

Too many chromies, not enough homies?

That's the argument

Yes, because a lack of class structure and state lead to inevitable state corruption.

I find this amusing. I don't see why anyone else wouldn't. Seeing as you clearly don't know what you're talking aout

*Citation Needed*

Yes because Democratic-Confederalism enforces it.

Sure there are plenty of socialists who think that the only way of achieving communism is through a dictatorship of the working class. Where did I say I was one of them? Your heads so far up your own ass, everything you spew is shit.

Yes because Capitalism and Democracy are synonymous

i cri evry tim

Yes my believes are impossible. I already answered your question, once again you're so narrow minded you refuse to see it.

You made the assumption that I want some sort of "...revolution..." lol

Anarchy with class-structure; you have things, I kill you, now they're mine.

Nice meme

The day when 'need' no longer becomes 'want'.

You're correct on one point though, at least in my opinion, that something as radical as communism cannot be forced. With the exception of pre-feudal society as well as "State-less States" like Rojava, Aragon, Catalonia and the Free Territories, every time it has been tried it has failed.

*essay* lol

No because capitalism is a foundation so to speak.

Does the drive for profit not make capitalism what it is?

@Ragnarรถk Why don't you sit there and let the grown ups talk seeing as you have nothing of value to add

That drive for profit lays this inevitable "foundation".

Prohibition doesnt work

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thought police lol

Adolf was a failed painter, and a failed soldier, who couldn't get his dick up

*Show me the Bodies*

Tell me dead Mussolini doesn't look like Sloth from the Goonies

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/441029316990730241/6d50b6e9394a20d2b7a47cffd85c9bf6.jpg

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He was born that way

His family deserved worse

The best kind of fascist right here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/441030047789481994/Death-of-Mussolini.jpg

He ran a campaign encouraging italians to eat rice

No worse than that cum-dumpster Steven Crowder quoting Strasser instead of Hitler -_-

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I'd pay to watch that

The only thing that would explain his lack of brain functions; would clearly be the amount of inanimate objects that man can hoop

lol hindsight dipped

He knows not what he does

"Capitalism is a a life force, without it you have no soul"

This retard from earlier legit said this -_-

I'm quoting that XD

You must be a politician

Nah, saying you work hard doesn't fit. Surely you are petty-bourgeois than? hahahahahaha

Engels definition

So you're a social-democrat?

I'm not actually being serious lol

>Working
>Politican
Pick one lol

A lobbyist then

Yeah I know. Jokes aside, someone says that they enjoy capitalism they are either A: Short of a few chromosomes, or B: a politician.

Ancap?

That's my bad, I thought he was kidding about being pro-capitalist

I'm libertarian, that's a very broad label lol

There are a lot of people here, with a lot of different beliefs so...

I mean I can guarantee that there are communist's here who un-ironically call themselves marxist-leninist's so...

I just don't see how anyone could think that capitalism is an end goal

Socioeconomics and politics kek

Less people die under capitalism

Nice meme

If Communism is the dissolution of both the state and class, what else could be an alternative?

Rid the state and live in a fairy tale?

You have things, I kill you, now they're my things.

Just someone who thinks that "Capitalism isn't capitalism if the government does it" ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚

Be gone Maoist

Feudalism was the end game at the time, and nobody at the time could have predicted the industrial revolution.

No it hasn't? Name me one state that has ever been commmunist

Your argument implies that capitalism and democracy are synonymous

*Capitalism and Democracy are synonymous*

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East Germany was a soviet state, and Cuba is still a socialist dictatorship.

What about Rojava, or Catelonia, or Aragon, or the Free states? You're un-ironically try to say that Capitalism and Democracy are synonymous.

and of course the paris-commune

What happened to them all? They all fell to foreign invasion, with the exception of Rojava.

Stalin backed the Spanish Communist parties invasion of Aragon.

It's the reasoning for the Russian civil war too, I'm sure Trotsky's last thought before getting picked was how much he regretted it. The split between the party was do to people not wanting a dictatorship

Marx said the exact same thing when trades were going out of fashion so...

...and yet there are still carpenters and bakers around today

Raiding is essential towards groups that are outright brain dead.

like narsocs and what have you

It also makes you look like the weak and feeble twat you are. I joined this Discord to enjoy reasonable monologue and the frequent shit post.

Looking over the past 2 days, you can clearly see that anyone who has come to this Discord in hopes of trying to achieve something, have only made themselves look like brain-dead mongoloids.

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