You hate the west for being the west. You hate freedom and prosperity.

You are the problem.

Yes Saudi Arabia should have been dealt with

They stole Oil fields developed by the UK and US in the 50s

They should never own their oil

Also they have no rights as a nation because of their rhetoric and the nature of islam

We have every right to bomb them until they submit and leave islam

Western companies that spent money developing these fields does

yes

It was not the government owning these fields, it was companies

The uk and us didnt protect the rights of their citizens when the saudies stole it

You need to read some books brainlet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt_J0R_uWbo&t=0200

you can start by listening to this speech and q a

Should I send you the speech in VHS format instead?

Deal with the content, not the format

You freedom hating retarded leftist

You might aswell go stab random children in the street. Your philosophy is almost as bad as that in the long run.

Sure

I also listen to speeches sometimes

I can see that you do not

You have no understand of the world.

Yeah

Did I ever claim that a video is a book?

What even are you? Why am I wasting my time talking to this brainlet

Just off yourself, or atleast never vote.

You can start with atlas shrugged.

Too bad you dont have the capacity to understand it

He does not disavow altruism

Do you think I think that US foreign policy since 1945 was good?

That shows how much you understand my position

My position is that Tehran should have been bombed to shit until they submit to the west like the japanese

I dont want to sacrifice our own soldiers in a war

No

I actually care about people and freedom

you do not

I am the one with the empathy. You are ignorant and confused.

Rational self defence is a good thing

Dropping the bomb on the japs was a heroic thing.

The muslims are far worse than the nepotistic socialist jews

If they had power they would murder you caledonian.

What does that mean? Is everybody nihilists here?

Because of welfare

And some want freedom. They are still ignorant however and do not understand why islam is so retarded

Yeah

The weeb is the worst of them all however.

They belong in the gas chamber.

Reality is quite rude to people that evade life to such a degree.

That is what happens when you have such a altruist society

Most women would not like to face the free market

This is why you cant have voting on such things.

Its a clash of philosophy

I want people to prosper and live in freedom. However these chaps here want future children to live in death and ruin

In a society of decay and evasion.

They are winning too.

No I am not a mutt.

I am a 191cm tall blue eyed blonde haired norwegian.

You do not understand what I advocate for at all

You are not selfish if you are bernie maddoff and cant sleep at night while taking in billions of dollars

Selfishness is good.

To be selfish is to act in your own self interest

Selfishness is not good if you evade the facts of reality and remain ignorant on purpose

We have different views of selfishness

Thats the core thing here. You have to use foresight and circumspection if you want to be selfish

It is a selfish thing to have a good relationship with others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s7gaIgOW34

This talk explains it for you

The first definition agrees with me

Yes it does

It is a selfish thing to have a good relationship with others. Like the first definition says.

Thats absolute bullshit. A selfish person should care about the quality of his own life. Other people is a value because you gain from the relationships

If you do not gain a value then those relationships are probably not worth continueing

Yeah. You act only for your own interest or happiness. Which is sometimes to have mutually beneficial relationships. Its some sort of a trade. Trade is good!

I explained this to you. Other people can be a value. The goal of being selfish is to have more values for your own life and live a good life.

To be selfish is in some instances to have mutually beneficially relationships

Its not that hard to understand.... You are not selfish if you shoot yourself in the foot because other people might gain if you interact instead

No... because... other... people... can... be.... a.... value... in.... your.... life....

Thats exactly how human nature works brainlet. Trade is good!

I value my girlfriend. My family. My friends. I bring value to their life and they bring value to mine. I would be worse off without them.

You are talking about yourself then

LMAO youre the one that cant understand that other people can be a value in someones life. What a bat shit crazy view. Are you some sort of shut in neckbeard?

Yeah. My goal is not other peoples happiness. It is exclusively mine. It is my chief regard

However to reach a goal might result in other people also gaining a value. As a by product

They key thing here is the goal in mind. The goal is not altruism. The goal is a selfish goal of gaining value to your own life, with no focus on what other people gain.

No

You do not understand. The goal is not to serve others. It is a trade. You are not acting selflessly. You have a selfish goal in mind! Logically I can say that because the goal is whats important here. You are not selfish if you have a retarded goal however. Evading reality and not working for values in your life is not being selfish. That is self destructive behavior.

Because you are sacrificing yourself instead of working to gain value in your life and to improve your own life? Thats the great thing about trade! Many people benefit! Everybody should work towards having a great life with prosperity and great value giving personal relationships.

Sure in some cases your altruistic behavior might ultimately be selfish by accident. However if you act selfishly it is always in your self interest, while other people gain!

No

I did. Its not always in your self interest because other people might not share your goals because of their ignorance or misunderstanding

LMAO I dont understand how you can get such a retarded understanding of this.

I am making a case against altruism because it does not always(almost never) work towards bringing value and great relationships to your life

Yes! And what you dont seem to get is that other people might gain while you serve yourself rationally

The morality of selfishness is a good morality. Welcome to objectivism

LOL ARE YOU REALLY THIS RETARDED

MORALITY IS DERIVED FROM REASON

You are as daft as a retarded 8 year old child. You probably understand my position fully and just debate to debate. Not to go somewhere. Or maybe you are this retarded. I dont know

Yeah? so?

You didnt debunk me. I destroyed your argument every time

Because it leads to you gaining value and allows you to live a good life. There is such a thing as good and bad you know

Then your morals are not derived from reason. You should value having a good life.