?role Socialist

?rank Socialist

?rank Nationalist

?rank Authoritarian

?rank North American

?rank Other Nationalist

>are just Socialists...

Just being a Socialist is already a good start.

Liberals (most modern day politicians) are not unified in their attitudes towards the nation states.

But, in general, they trend towards preferring an open nation-state.

Where as I may desire a state which is entirely composed of European-Americans & European hybrids.

Capitalism is killing aall peoples.

It was forced upon us.

For the sake of rich perverts.

Its previous benefits are gone.

It is time for aggressive change in term of our mode of production.

From profit, to need.

To tear down very core of individualism.

No, there however shall be personal property.

Such as your house, your car, your personal belongings.

Yes.

You can exchange and gift personal belongings between yourselves. I don't see any reason to regulate such.

You can have peer-to-peer currencies, as long as it is not exploitative or threatening the newly established order.

Okay, let me try!

(Regarding exploitation:) As long as that peer-to-peer debt system does not lead to the threat of violence or the loss of *things* if it is not met. If they legitimately stole something, that is something else. But a loose verbal contract that they failed to meet. That is something you two would have to work out between yourselves.

Perhaps just directly exchanging your book for those home-grown oranges would be better, if you don't know if they can meet it in the future.

Regarding the newly established order; I simply mean "if it establishes a mini-capitalist market within Socialism".

Well, yes. Earnestly? It'll probably be something that men and people smarter than me will have to respond to.. But...

Its a frisky matter.

A black market? No.

Do you get what I mean? Kind of?

*That makes sense.*

No.

I would say that, in general, peer-to-peer trading wouldn't be an issue.

It would only become such if the structure of capitalism is being gradually re-built.

With the threat of force to back it up, especially.

(Even if those people use a personal currency.)

That is fine.

Yes.

Assuming it is not forceful and consensual, yes.

It sounds fair to me, even though I feel kind of suspicious of the whole contract and how that could be expanded to exploit Mr. Bob. But, if Bob agrees and is of sound mind. Then it would be valid.

Some form of contract would have to exist for Craftsmen Unions and Co-Operatives to function smoothly, anyway.

That is going a bit too far in just re-constructing the capitalist market.

In that first place, it all seems unneeded and complicating things that are simple.

But-

If that is just what they want.

I guess... Whatever.

If the mode of production is firmly socialistic in wider society.

It would be unreasonable to police it and it also wouldn't develop.

Well- Most likely.

Of course.

Organic, small farms are better in quality than factory farming.

However, we both know that not all farms can be like that.

But-

You wouldn't buy or sell. It would be exchanges and transfers of personal property when we're dealing with houses.

Yeah, no. If this was to happen. A response would have to be given out. This little blackmarket crushed and those who would conditioned into re-accepting such exploitation should be re-educated.

It shares the building blocks of capitalism. Which is already assumed to be exploitative for argument.

The I.O.U.s may not exactly be allowed. Some of the situations mentioned would have to be regulated.

All together, it creates the system which was overthrown.

Because it is capitalism.

Just peer-to-peer.

I wouldn't allow it, if I had the power to make that decision.

Its people who were conditioned into believing their own expxloitation is for their benefit re-building their abuser.

Yes, it was.

Then it would just be kind fo stupid.

It still seems questionable why it would exist in such a society. But it doesn't seem as though any form of action would be required.

Snakebucks would basically be meaningless.

But, yes. Lots of snakebucks.

Why is it "pagang"?

For obvious reasons.

It all makes sense.