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I don't know the lyrics but go on

^^^

Batko is based and breadpilled

Love him

Batko, SocorBar best leftie meme youtube channel

Epic

Hmm

Fuck yeah

I like my women dominated

2018-12-12 01:18:55 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

2018-12-19 07:54:58 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Mediocre

2018-12-19 07:55:15 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But good intro material

2018-12-19 07:55:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Read it a year ago

2019-02-28 04:51:25 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

2019-02-28 04:56:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Where are roles

2019-02-28 04:57:11 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

?rank anarchist

2019-02-28 04:57:16 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

?rank socialist

2019-02-28 05:00:19 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Alles heil ✋

2019-02-28 05:00:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

<:ancom:520002567988838401>

2019-02-28 05:00:35 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

^this me

2019-02-28 05:02:45 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Never forget the 6 gorrilion

Alles Heil ✋

2019-02-28 05:06:32 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

Noice

2019-02-28 05:06:37 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

?rank Anarchist

2019-02-28 05:06:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

?rank Communist

2019-02-28 05:07:02 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

?rank socialist

2019-02-28 05:07:26 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

The tachanka was created by ancoms <:ancom:520002567988838401>

2019-02-28 05:07:39 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

Nestor Makhno specifically

2019-02-28 05:07:52 UTC [Nationalist Union #bot-commands]  

Yes. Alles heil ✋

2019-02-28 05:08:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

GUYS HELP KAREN TOOK THE KIDS

2019-02-28 05:08:39 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

OH GOD OH FUCK WHAT AM I GONNA DO I DON'T WANNA DIE ALONE

2019-02-28 05:09:07 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I HATE WOMEN THEY ONLY CRAVE MONEY

2019-02-28 05:10:01 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Atheism is so bankrupt.

2019-02-28 05:10:06 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Become a Jesusist

2019-02-28 05:10:16 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I used to be an atheist

2019-02-28 05:11:27 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

To be fair, women do fantasize about fucking horses

2019-02-28 05:11:51 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Just google horse porn and you'll see what I mean

2019-02-28 05:12:23 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@FreshWholeMilk that's a FACT

2019-02-28 05:12:35 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Anglos are disgusting

2019-02-28 05:12:41 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Join anti anglo gang

2019-02-28 06:23:14 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@Bee do you even know who Bakunin is?

2019-02-28 06:23:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The guy who you're quoting from?

2019-02-28 06:31:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

And why is that my friend?

2019-02-28 06:32:16 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Why are anarchists retarded

2019-02-28 06:50:52 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Maybe you've never understood what anarchists wanted to replace the state with. In an anarchist country or a nation, true sovereignty will be in the hands of the people. And the people will be organised through a system if federation that is bottom up. That means workers, united in their trades and jobs as association of workers, those associations federating together to form a commune. All associations are the supreme sovereigns. They appoint committees and councils for the administration of a territorial branch and they can kick them out whenever necessary if they slack off in their work. A commune in a given region will federate to form a regional federation represented in a regional committee of the regional federation. The committee itself will be formed from delegates of different communes. The federation is important for the coordination od economic and cultural projects in a large area, particularly in a region. Now, those delegates are nothing like the representative politicians like we have today, on the contrary, they're nothing short of messengers that corresponds with the regional committee while having no power of his own, true power will lie in the individual communes, and in turn in the associations of workingmen. After the regional federation, comes the national federation. The national federation is a union of all regional federation of a given nation, represented by a national committee. The rules for the delegates is the same as the delegates for regional federation. Again, the national federation is important for coordination for economic and cultural projects composing a whole nation and for communication. The federations (local, regional and national etc) are also important for a common registry of data and statistics for production and consumption so that the economy goes through an orderly and efficient manner.

2019-02-28 06:51:52 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

@Pulse Redux we're having a serious conversation. Please don't pollute.

2019-02-28 06:57:31 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

And as for self defense, anarchists have never rejected the prospect for a well disciplined army. Alexander Berkman, after the Russian Revolution had emphasized, "The social revolution demands that we build a well disciplined and organised army for it's defense." And anarchists historically have followed this. Whether it be Durruti's Iron Coloumn, or the Revolutionary Army Of Ukraine, they've maintained a strictly disciplined and organised armed force to fend off the enemy. But in this day of age, no matter how big and well disciplined your army is, against the superior imperialist armies like that of the US and China, will fall like a house of cards because of their drone and missile technology. So the very conduct of war has to be revisited by revolutionaries. In the meantime, there's no alternative other thsn guerilla warfare.

2019-02-28 07:00:00 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

No if it's it the triumph of the revolution you want and the moral and material development of the workers, you will have to do away with the government. We've seen time and time again how the organised parasites like the Bolsheviks and communists have destroyed all prospects of the revolution and destroyed organs of workers control thus inevitably destroying the morale of the revolution and reduce the workers to a cattle of herds and slaves for the service and interest of the members of a party dictatorship.

2019-02-28 07:03:56 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The revolution can never triumph without its spiritual and moral elevation

2019-02-28 07:04:20 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

They are

2019-02-28 07:04:31 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Yes by the ancaps

2019-02-28 07:04:53 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Most right-libertarian theorists are jews

2019-02-28 07:07:25 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Anarchism is not a party organ. It is an idea, it can't be hijacked. Even it did, the degenerative ones will be rejected for the slow but inevitable development of the revolutionary one. Like how after a body has been wounded, it slowly pushes the foreign objects outward and starts healing in the process.

2019-02-28 07:09:13 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Cummies meaning?

2019-02-28 07:14:53 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I see. It's not a question of whether they should or not be purged. If they are at the vanguard of the anarchist struggle then it's our fault, us revolutionaries that didn't work hard enough to reach to the masses and in turn let them be at the forefront. The issue now isn't whether we should purge them (even if so, we wouldn't do it because we're not the party 'leader' of the anarchist party) the issue right now is how hard we can agitate and spread our propaganda among the masses for them to accept our revolutionary programme and forget the furries.

Weird way to spell the bourgeoisie

2019-02-28 07:21:16 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Majority of the workers in the West are white. Anti-white is synonymous for anti-workers

2019-02-28 07:25:00 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Im not against accelerationism But I don't personally think it will inevitably lead to the collapse of bourgouis order. The powers that be will probably fall behind the reactionaries and fascists who will promise to restore their power once they're in control. Just like what happened in Spain and Germany. So instead of agitating for collapse, we should agitate for social revolution (which is also the collapse of the olfd order but also the preparation for the new one)

2019-02-28 07:30:41 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Yes

The Bourgeoisie is the Bourgouisie. Always have and always will be. During Marx's time, they took mask of nationalist revolutionaries. They acted like they're the disciples of Mazzini and Garibaldi. They swore on nationalism and revolution. They trued to show the masses that they were on their side. "We're not your oppressors! We're your freinds!"" They yelled. And the masses, as guliable as they were, believed them. But they always remained what they really were. Parasitic entities that sat on the producers of social life. That sucked away their freedom and their sense of honour. They reduced them to a cog of machine in their factories. Lifeless automatons. Slaves. And now they're doing it again. Except this time they've wore the mask of Marxism.

2019-02-28 07:46:00 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But why do you think the leaders of this new state won't collude with the Bourgouisie (national or international)) for material support? Wouldn't then in turn the state will defend the privilege of tge said Bourgouisie by force? Why do you think the workers will get any change to their regime of exploitation and wage slavery? Why don't you want to do away with private property and place it in common for all to enjoy and for it to satisfy the necessities of everyone?

2019-02-28 07:47:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Wouldn't that be the best for the people of your nation instead of a transitional regime where the exploitors and parasites rule and preside over the actual producers of social life, harmony and happiness?

2019-02-28 08:16:44 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But collaboration with workers organisations (like councils and trade unions) with the capitalists only ends up making them the tool of the employers. Because the workers are still having their surplus value extracted and the the owner is getting that as a profit. Thus je still remains a capitalist and the workers still remain exploited. Now, maybe on the eve of tge implementation of such programs, the capitalist may act loke he's compliant with the revolution, but slowly he'll absorb the workers organisations and the state with money and pollute them woth corruption. When the workers realise this, the owner class will swiftly turn the cannons against the workers and the repress them. With the capitalist representatives in power, the state corrupted and the workers organisations tamed, they will again start their regime of parasitism and oppression. And soon the same moral and spiritual decedence of the old world will follow.

2019-02-28 08:17:38 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I'm not saying these because I'm making scenarios up, I'm saying these because these have literally happened in the past with all type of corporatist states (whether they be fascist or social democrat)

2019-02-28 08:19:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But why even such half measures? Why are you afraid of total expropriation?

2019-02-28 08:25:59 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Yes not right now. they people are definitely not ready. And the generation that were, that of the 20s and 30s were defeated. But that's where we come in. We need agitation, organisations and education for the preparation of the social revolution. That's why alot of anarchists are syndicalists. They want the creation of revolutionary nucleases in factories, farms and mines so that they could be trained and educated for the management of the economy and their workplaces. Like where do the raw materials come from, how would administration of a factory or workplace work, how to hold comgresses, act as secretaries, how to federate with other councils etc etc.

2019-02-28 08:28:02 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But that doesn't mean we're waiting for the majority of the people to rise to spontaneously and overthrow their oppressors in a heartbeat. That's just a pipe dream. We know that the insurrectionary moments of the social revolution can be made by dedicated militant individuals.

2019-02-28 08:30:21 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But for that tense situation to happen in the first place, we need a mass movement and mass organisations. Not to mention if we want the revolution to be profited by the people themselves, and not by a handful of professional revolutionaries (like the Bolsheviks did) we have to train and prepare the masses and instill in them a spirit of self confidence that workers themselves can manage their national economies through direct action.

2019-02-28 08:35:18 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

No I am not. I think National anarchism is a bit of a redundant. Because anarchy itself is nationalistic because it affirms the right of self determination for all nations and all creeds. As an anarchist you're automatically a patriot that means you want the well being of the people of your country. But at the same time you'll know that the wellbeing of your country is impossible if the workers of other countries can't overthrow their oppressors because the international bourgouisie is not the problem of this or that country but of all of the world. That being said, the right tp determine which political direction a country goes is solely the business of the people of that nation. That's why we are ardent believers of national self-determination.

2019-02-28 08:40:50 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Yes I do agree with this and that's why I've said that this is redundant. As a general anarchist, you'd automatically believe in these. This is kind of like saying "I'm an anti-authoritarian anarchist."... Well obviously you are. That's what anarchy is.

2019-02-28 08:42:03 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Foolish

2019-02-28 08:42:26 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Those anarchists

2019-02-28 08:43:00 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Open border works for the capitalists only

2019-02-28 08:44:45 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I see you're a server partner. Which server are you from?

2019-02-28 08:50:39 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I don't think so. Maybe you haven't talked comprehensively with any anarchists before like you did with me. They would agree with me 99% of the time

2019-02-28 08:51:42 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

No I haven't.

2019-02-28 08:52:58 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

If you're talking about anti-white memes, then I'd say it's nothing really. It's kind of like the gulag memes that tankies make. They abhore the gulags. But they just like triggering people

2019-02-28 08:53:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Also I'm not white hehe

2019-02-28 08:54:13 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I'm Bengali and live in Bangladesh.

2019-02-28 08:54:28 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Lol

2019-02-28 08:54:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I know you are a little bit disappointed

2019-02-28 08:57:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

But I'm not an NatAn. I thought I've made that clear.

2019-02-28 08:59:06 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Lmao nice meme

2019-02-28 08:59:20 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Although I'm not black. And very paled skin.

2019-02-28 09:01:36 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Yes you're right

2019-02-28 09:02:13 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I have like super straight hair and a nose like you guys.

2019-02-28 09:04:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

My problem with nationalism is that it supposes that the Bourgouisie can forget it's own interest of profit making and can be brought to serve the 'common interest' of the nation.

2019-02-28 09:05:08 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Other than pure biological needs, I don't see any common interest of the worker and the bourgouisie.

2019-02-28 09:05:12 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Oh really?

2019-02-28 09:09:04 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Woah cool

2019-02-28 09:09:51 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Reminds me of the Vietnamese. They were communists but nationalists as well.

2019-02-28 09:10:48 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The Vietnamese national struggle happened at the same time as our national liberation war. 1971

2019-02-28 09:12:05 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The US sent its 7th fleet at our shores when we cornered the enemy. But the USSR sent it's own and to avoid an international conflict, the US withdrew.

2019-02-28 09:12:58 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Do you read epubs?

2019-02-28 09:14:26 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/550606696620359690/alfredo-m-bonanno-anarchism-and-the-national-liberation-struggle.epub

2019-04-13 02:54:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

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