Message from @انتقام

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2019-02-28 08:25:59 UTC  

Yes not right now. they people are definitely not ready. And the generation that were, that of the 20s and 30s were defeated. But that's where we come in. We need agitation, organisations and education for the preparation of the social revolution. That's why alot of anarchists are syndicalists. They want the creation of revolutionary nucleases in factories, farms and mines so that they could be trained and educated for the management of the economy and their workplaces. Like where do the raw materials come from, how would administration of a factory or workplace work, how to hold comgresses, act as secretaries, how to federate with other councils etc etc.

2019-02-28 08:27:56 UTC  

i'm down for that. i'm more of a third positionist but anything that moves away from international capitalism or even pure marxism is a step in the right direction

2019-02-28 08:28:02 UTC  

But that doesn't mean we're waiting for the majority of the people to rise to spontaneously and overthrow their oppressors in a heartbeat. That's just a pipe dream. We know that the insurrectionary moments of the social revolution can be made by dedicated militant individuals.

2019-02-28 08:30:21 UTC  

But for that tense situation to happen in the first place, we need a mass movement and mass organisations. Not to mention if we want the revolution to be profited by the people themselves, and not by a handful of professional revolutionaries (like the Bolsheviks did) we have to train and prepare the masses and instill in them a spirit of self confidence that workers themselves can manage their national economies through direct action.

2019-02-28 08:31:13 UTC  

right and right.
are you a national anarchist nick?

2019-02-28 08:35:18 UTC  

No I am not. I think National anarchism is a bit of a redundant. Because anarchy itself is nationalistic because it affirms the right of self determination for all nations and all creeds. As an anarchist you're automatically a patriot that means you want the well being of the people of your country. But at the same time you'll know that the wellbeing of your country is impossible if the workers of other countries can't overthrow their oppressors because the international bourgouisie is not the problem of this or that country but of all of the world. That being said, the right tp determine which political direction a country goes is solely the business of the people of that nation. That's why we are ardent believers of national self-determination.

2019-02-28 08:39:09 UTC  

ah ok
what do you think of the definition, "National-anarchism is a radical, anti-capitalist, anti-Marxist and anti-statist ideology. National-anarchists advocate a post-capitalist stateless society in which communities of different ethnic or racial groups would be free to develop separately in their own autonomous tribal communes."
do you mostly describe yourself as that and/or agree with it?
i also agree that the international bourgeois should be overthrown

2019-02-28 08:40:37 UTC  

Those guys are literally, unironically, neo-Nazi Antifa

2019-02-28 08:40:49 UTC  

ikr, based and redpilled

2019-02-28 08:40:50 UTC  

Yes I do agree with this and that's why I've said that this is redundant. As a general anarchist, you'd automatically believe in these. This is kind of like saying "I'm an anti-authoritarian anarchist."... Well obviously you are. That's what anarchy is.

2019-02-28 08:41:47 UTC  

sure, it's just that anarchists today mostly believe in internationalist open borders and think that white people having their own interests is racist etc

2019-02-28 08:42:03 UTC  

Foolish

2019-02-28 08:42:18 UTC  

those anarchists or my statement

2019-02-28 08:42:26 UTC  

Those anarchists

2019-02-28 08:42:30 UTC  

i agree

2019-02-28 08:43:00 UTC  

Open border works for the capitalists only

2019-02-28 08:44:03 UTC  

BASED

2019-02-28 08:44:45 UTC  

I see you're a server partner. Which server are you from?

2019-02-28 08:45:09 UTC  

the world's might party.

2019-02-28 08:48:56 UTC  

well my friend, you are a rare gem in a mountain of shit lol

2019-02-28 08:50:39 UTC  

I don't think so. Maybe you haven't talked comprehensively with any anarchists before like you did with me. They would agree with me 99% of the time

2019-02-28 08:51:33 UTC  

i dunno, have you seen /r/anarchism? lol
it's a shithole

2019-02-28 08:51:42 UTC  

No I haven't.

2019-02-28 08:52:11 UTC  

yeah, you'd get cancer and would probably get called a nazi for being a national anarchist and for not hating yourself for being white

2019-02-28 08:52:58 UTC  

If you're talking about anti-white memes, then I'd say it's nothing really. It's kind of like the gulag memes that tankies make. They abhore the gulags. But they just like triggering people

2019-02-28 08:53:29 UTC  

Also I'm not white hehe

2019-02-28 08:53:59 UTC  

yeahhhh i don't think so.
oh really? what race are you

2019-02-28 08:54:13 UTC  

I'm Bengali and live in Bangladesh.

2019-02-28 08:54:23 UTC  

oh wow
cool

2019-02-28 08:54:28 UTC  

Lol

2019-02-28 08:54:40 UTC  

I know you are a little bit disappointed

2019-02-28 08:56:39 UTC  

lmao
well that is a surprise at least to me, i'd would've thought that most national anarchists are white, plus it has the celtic cross on the emblem lol

2019-02-28 08:57:40 UTC  

But I'm not an NatAn. I thought I've made that clear.

2019-02-28 08:58:21 UTC  

you say you aren't, but oh well lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/550602651688239104/uofufygig.png

2019-02-28 08:58:47 UTC  

based and redpilled either way

2019-02-28 08:59:06 UTC  

Lmao nice meme

2019-02-28 08:59:09 UTC  

ikr

2019-02-28 08:59:20 UTC  

Although I'm not black. And very paled skin.

2019-02-28 08:59:34 UTC  

i know lol still relevant lol
ahhh

2019-02-28 09:00:04 UTC  

so almost persian/indo-aryan in a way?

2019-02-28 09:01:03 UTC  

like in india
the upper castes are lighter skinned