and from my perspective, I get to enjoy a good old _toss and take cover_ -type evening.

Lick my anarchy balls.

(&GTFO after you're done)

_hops in ride, makes quick run._

Certainly not, and it certainly doesn't _feel_ like I'm producing a _good relationship_ while it's happening.

About what?

Well, you keep saying that it's improper to _masseuse and vamoose_, and we agree, but the contention from our side of the argument is that it takes two to tango.

Ultimately if chicks accept shallow relationships, and don't police eachother, it's just how things shake out.

Because the risk to guys is lowest. I can "litter" all I want and it actually seems to make my life better.

Well, one nice thing about Ontario is single-party recording consent. Though that doesn't get you off the hook if you have intoxicated sex, which I advise against in general.

I agree

what are _you_ going to do about it?

I am not in any position to change the behaviour of women in general.

nobody knows, @♓♏♋

yikes

that video is ugly

she's okay, but meh

Here's the thing... I want to have a wife in the future. I have earning potential and work well with kids and all, but I am so young. If I start looking now, I will miss out on a major advantage I have in the marital meat market.

I spend 90+% of my time working and becoming better at life, so my standards are going to be pretty high by the time it matters.

And the other end of the deal will need to be held up.

I can't be arsed to be monogamous to a girl who isn't devoted.

yeah, she led with "lol, wut you no dance?"

Granted, some of these "superficial" questions have deeper components.

propensity to dance in public is... somewhat related to personality.

The thing is, if the girl has no self control, then we should be looking to her dad; because it's probably too late for her.

indeed

depends on how you mean "beneficial"

Well, height (within a reasonably close genetic community) is an indicator of good phenotypic quality.

Within an ethnic group, it is intuitively suspect when a man is shorter than a candidate woman.

modulo outliers

Well, women aim for 80th percentile males relative to themselves, in almost every way

oh, well I think you're misinterpreting that

unless we're talking about low-T disasterpieces of men

"prerequisite" is just a funny word for "preference"

LoL, no.

maybe scrididdlyibblehatch is just modeling the idea of "prerequisites" vs. "preferences"

I'm saying that from the perspective of a suitor, prerequisites can be bent to preferences.

you are just being dull or obtuse about it

@Beemann it's hard online, but just don't do it online.

that's a description though

just because other people are choosing a bad way to meet people, doesn't mean you have to

When I meet nice girls, it's usually at hobby meetups or professional conferences

Good men who _want_ what they're pursuing have a charm advantage in person, but it really doesn't work out online.

ahh, yeah, that's the other thing

Well, right now I have an advantage there

since it's up in the air as to where I will be living

You know, @Scribblehatch, I don't think anyone is as dismissive and mean as you here. If you think that there's something wrong with the dating scene or whatever it is that compelled you to start this thread, maybe you should look inward first.

Well, barring other major faults.

I am very confused.

???

Is this a dream theater song?

Bye

You don't own a truck.

I think he's a social conservative of a sort, actually.

with maybe a bit of resentment that girls have standards.

(unrealistic ones, to be fair)

Yeah, I fully agree with that assessment, @Beemann.

lol, now just trolling

it's none of your business what other people want, you have to convince people to want it if you want them to take it.

complaining about women having unreasonable standards to a group of men on the internet is about the least useful thing you could do, toward that end..

trading up is the desired state of all people without self esteem issues

_is an unwitting agent of Big Spade_

Stealing is immoral, having standards is not.

(even if your standards render you lonely until it's too late)

So what?

I mean, yeah, it seems like a kick in the teeth to whoever you left

probably a dick move

but if it's on the top of your mind that you should trade up

then staying together isn't doing anyone any good either.

Ultimately, what are you going to do about people who overestimate the greenness of the grass on the other side?

Round 'em up?

I'd like to trade up, as it relates to conversation partners.

It's loud and annoying that you are vacuuming, please do it at some other time.

Nobody forced you to continue railing on me, you just sounded like you thought you were capable of dismissing me from a conversation involving about a dozen people who are not you.

"I'd like" indicates a _preference_, sir ;- )

(Several people are typing)

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> _“...however those of you in a long-term relationship, you are fighting a continuous battle, a battle you may never win, a battle you must simply fight in order not to lose.”_

Man, I really do wonder why people would _play to win_ against somebody they're trying to get along with.

Being too woke about the transactionality of a relationship is an excellent way to render it transactional.

(yes)

It's like a lending account where an imaginary number makes it unclear who is in debt.

@Deleted User Well, there's something to what she says. In this case, the public is making a decision which is different from the decision whether or not to convict Brett Kavanaugh of a crime.

Not to excuse the oddity of the circumstances, it is legitimately difficult to decide whether this allegation should have an effect on _the public's stake in his prospective career_ (distinct from _his personal culpability_), @Deleted User.

The problem is that it doesn't matter nearly as much whether justice Kavanaugh should be held accountable for a crime, as it matters what effect (if any) this should have on his eligibility for the supreme court.

no, he's Mohican

@Beemann A German?

Speaking of Krauts, I could go for some kraut.

@JULZIFICATOR Yeah, it's a bit of a messy term, since "America" comes from "Americo" who was certainly not "Native American"

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth "I've dismissed you so many times, why are you still here?"

Certainly was a good enough reason to "own" the land before Europeans got here.

Though I tend to take the stance that there is a debt owed, which is mainly still owed because of the various awful ideas we've had of how to pay it off.

I think they certainly believed in not having to compete for the land with others, which seems like ownership to me.

They just did a shitty job of developing the concept of ownership.

Yeah, you'd think they would try to at least smear PewDiePie this time, maybe they learned their lesson (and now only smear people they hope won't be capable of brushing it off and ending up on top).

Speaking of creampie, I need to shower before I have an empty and ultimately meaningless sexual liaison with a girl tonight, ciao for now.

Skrattar du, förlorar du, (m[aä]nnen|kvinn(an|orna)).

LoL, so it seems lady friend bailed

maybe I should go try indoor rock climbing instead

hahaha

Maybe she got the impression that I _was_ an ally.